There are a few public trees on ancestry which have a Henry Mottram born Cheshire 1825 marrying an Anne Marie Banyard 21 Jan 1870 at Trinity Congregational Church. Doesn't say where.
Henry died 29 February 1892 at Canning Mill, Swan, Western Australia
BUT the convict record they are using is one of a Henry Mottram arriving 1833 at van Deimen's land after being sentenced to life in Montgomery Wales. This would make him aged 8 when transported! Some of these trees have his parents some don't but all of them seem to be off beam with some of their info.
Another variation of spelling for the surname?
Western Australia, convict records, 17 May 1851 for Henry Motheram - (the index image shows the 'h' written over with a 't')
age 26, 5 ft 5 1/2 inches, hair-dark brown, eyes- blue, face - long and sallow , dark whiskers, no identifying marks, occupation miner, single.
No indication of when he arrived or on which vessel
Christina
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13-08-2016, 8:56 PM #11Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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Last edited by esmotteram; 13-08-2016 at 9:12 PM. Reason: spelling
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13-08-2016, 9:05 PM #13
Another two records for this man dated 7 May 1851 and 15 May has his name as Motherham with no crossings out.
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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13-08-2016, 9:18 PM #14
Spellings of course are only as good as what the scribe heard. My ancestor Hargreaves emigrated to the U.S and his name on census records and his U.S. descendants are/were known as Hargraves.
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I had an Aussie partner in Kenya that I enjoyed immensely. I always sort of imagined Oz as about half way between USA and UK!
the 1890 Motterams (that I think paid their own way) have a recent history (1920) in Western Oz, but they initially settled in south Queensland/Victoria area (1890-1920).
I am most interested in Henry in the UK (pre 1850). He seems to come out of no where and be attached to no one.
Chester area is a strong association that actually connects the "Welch Mariner" thread and many Edwards, Williams, Motterams, Parry in the transition from Birmingham to Barrow in that Liverpool/Wales connection.
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03-03-2017, 12:56 PM #16
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HEnry arrived in 1851 on the Mermaid, Per my post a bit further down.
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03-03-2017, 1:21 PM #18
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Hi,
He's my GGG grandfather. The convict record below shows a variation of surname, and him as being semi literate.
I have Henry's parents as being Joseph Mottram and Hannah Capper.
The story in the Chester Chronicle newspaper shows his name as Motteram, but the transportation registers show Mottram, along with his co felon, Henry Watson.
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Tiffanffg, G'day and thanx
Unexpected and appreciated reply.
More pieces of the puzzle. I don't recocognize parent names in our genealogy but I am vague about details of family at the time and place ( Chester 1840-1850).
Down under, I have many relatives from WA, Perth, Swan but I believe they populated the area in the 1880-1890s. Many more on the east coast...
In the U.K. I have never connected the families Mottram to families Motteram. Maybe just haven't gone deep enough.
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London Evening Standard ( on FMP)
North Wales Circuit Spring Assizes 4 April 1849Henry Mottram aged 23 together with Henry Watson 18 & John Martin 15 committed Highway robbery at Delamere ( Cheshire)
23 December 1848 The trio assaulted and robbed a Mr Norton a farmer of Delamere who was on his way home form Manchester, taking 2 1/2 gold sovereigns and silver, personal papers & bills.
The trio were found guilty Motram & Watson to 20 years transportation , Mason to 10 years.
I am not quite sure why Norton would be in Frodsham on his way home form Manchester, it isn't the most direct route. Frodsham being about 6 miles from Delamere!
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