Hello
I am just trying to confirm whether I have the right facts for my great-grandfather George Butcher Twynam.
Birth certificate - born 7 December 1867, Downend, Arreton, Isle of Wight. Mother's name Eleanor Twynam. No father's name so I assume illegitimate. Informant of birth J Butcher. Birth registered 18 January 1868.
I have been told by a researcher that Eleanor's maiden name was Snelgrove (or Snellgrove) and that she was the widow of Walter Twynam (1811-61) of Bishopstoke, Hampshire (they married 1847). And that Eleanor's sister was Jane, who married Joseph Butcher. I can't find a census with Eleanor and Jane together to prove this.
There is an 1871 census with George Butcher, "son", aged 3, with Joseph & Jane Butcher at Arreton.
Then an 1881 census with George Butcher, "nephew", aged 13, with Joseph & Susannah (I think Jane had died in 1875).
18 March 1890, Islington Registry Office, George Butcher Twynam (mis-spelt Twyman) married Mary Ann Burt. George giving false father's name as also George Butcher Twynam, though certificate amended on 5 June 1905 (why then ??) to remove father's name. George & Mary's first child, Pearce, born December 1890.
I think one question is, can I be sure that Eleanor (or Ellenor) was Jane's sister? And would a bastardy bond exist saying who George Butcher Twynam's father was ?
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Thread: George Butcher Twynam 1867-1947
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05-08-2016, 12:08 PM #1
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George Butcher Twynam 1867-1947
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05-08-2016, 1:16 PM #2I think one question is, can I be sure that Eleanor (or Ellenor) was Jane's sister?
Name: Walter Twynam
Spouse: Ellenor Snellgrove
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Apr 1847
Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry Twynam
Spouse Father: Thomas Snellgrove
Register Type: Parish Register
Both Elenor and Jane Snellgrove/Snelgrove baptisms name parents Thomas and Elenor. The baptisms were in Hampshire. Elenor 1830 Bishop's Waltham; Jane 1828 BishopstokeAlma
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Marriages Jun 1848
JOSEPH BUTCHER I of Wight. Vol no 8, Page no 376
on the same page is JANE SNELGROVE
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05-08-2016, 1:49 PM #5
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Possible half sisters of George Butcher Twynam
Ellen Susanna and Ann
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05-08-2016, 2:17 PM #6
Walter Twynam, seems to have been a property owner - so quite wealthy. Certainly Elinor lived a comfortable life after his death.
Alma
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many many thanks for your very fast responses. Yes I'm aware of Ann Twynam as a half-sister. The problem with her is she was born 1846, a year before Ellenor & Walter married and if Ellenor was Ann's mother she might only have been 15 when she conceived (with Walter nearly 20 years older than Ellenor) - but I guess that's not impossible.
On the 1911 census Ellenor, living in Herne Bay, Kent says she had had 8 children with 4 already dead. She died 1912.
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05-08-2016, 2:41 PM #8
Marriage
Name Thomas Snelgrove
Spouse's Name Eleanor Goater
Event Date 25 Jul 1825
Event Place Alverstoke,Hampshire,England
1841 census: HO107, Piece 404, Book 18, Folio 32, Page 22
Bishops Stoke
Mary Snelgrove, 66, John Snelgrove 14, Eleanor 11. Also George Gover 18
Mary possibly Thomas' mother?Alma
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05-08-2016, 2:43 PM #9Yes I'm aware of Ann Twynam as a half-sister.Alma
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05-08-2016, 2:48 PM #10
1841 HO107; Piece: 404; Book: 18; Folio: 26; Page: 9
Bishops Stoke
Walter Twyman 30
Helen Twyman 20
Anna Fulchen 45
Name: Walter Twynam
Spouse: Helen Evans Atwood
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Jun 1840
Parish: Parish Chapel, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Henry Twynam
Spouse Father: Harry AtwoodAlma
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