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    Hello All,

    I have found an entry upon the Family Search website which relates to one of my Scott ancestors.....
    Robert Scott, born 1835, married to Anne McDonald on 19th April 1864 at Cappagh, Tyrone, Ireland.
    I would dearly like to obtain a copy of this parish register entry and wondered if anyone could inform me of how to go about this please.
    Living in England I have learned the system & know how to go about tracking down English registers but I have been led to understand that the system is different in Ireland & I don't know where to begin apply to.
    Any help & advice would be much appreciated.
    Thank you.

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    These may help.

    www.irishgenealogy.ie/en


    www. rootsireland.ie
    Last edited by Pam Downes; 28-07-2016 at 12:56 PM. Reason: Direct link to commercial site broken

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    You should be able to order the actual marriage certificate from this site https://www.
    birthsdeathsmarriages.ie/certificates/marriage-certificate/ for a fee.

    However if you are after parents they are in the indexes by 1864
    Grooms Father: Alexnader Scott
    Spouses Father: Daniel McDonald

    This from the Irish Genealogy toolkit gives you an idea what you might expect to see on the full certificate.

    http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.c...rriagecert.jpg
    Last edited by Pam Downes; 28-07-2016 at 12:33 PM. Reason: Direct link to commercial site broken

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    Finding that answer took me a merry few minutes. Definitely went round a few houses doing it! (And not helped by my non-existent Irish geography.)

    The easiest answer would be if you had a local LDS FHC nearby and you could order in the PR film, but the LDS haven't filmed that parish.
    Plan B revealed that that LDS entry was based on the Irish equivalent of the GRO Index (enter the film number in the LDS catalogue), but when I searched that index I got zilch matches. Eventually I found a Robert Scott with an Anne M'Donald (sic) on the same page. Registration district Omagh. Volume 7, page 279. Year 1864.

    I think this is where/how you need to apply for the certificate
    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles...t-certificates
    It'll cost you fifteen quid, and (if the website info is correct) there's currently a 7-10 day backlog on issuing certificates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twigger View Post
    You should be able to order the actual marriage certificate from this site https://www.
    birthsdeathsmarriages.ie/certificates/marriage-certificate/ for a fee.

    However if you are after parents they are in the indexes by 1864
    Grooms Father: Alexnader Scott
    Spouses Father: Daniel McDonald

    This from the Irish Genealogy toolkit gives you an idea what you might expect to see on the full certificate.

    http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.c...rriagecert.jpg
    The first link twigger gives looks to be a 'third party' company similar to some that provided BMD certificates from the GRO Index for about four times the cost of you applying direct. In this case, the company are charging a bit over twice the price as currently 40 Euros are equal to about £33.70. Companies offering such services are not acting illegally, merely taking advantage of your naiviety.

    As a rule of thumb, when wanting to apply for BMD certificates always look for a URL address with 'gov.' in the address otherwise you could be paying over the odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    Plan B revealed that that LDS entry was based on the Irish equivalent of the GRO Index (enter the film number in the LDS catalogue), but when I searched that index I got zilch matches. Eventually I found a Robert Scott with an Anne M'Donald (sic) on the same page. Registration district Omagh. Volume 7, page 279. Year 1864.


    Pam
    Um, the plot thickens.

    Using the first website the other Pamela gave in post #2, you get the same registration district, volume and page numbers I've quoted, but it also says 'quarter 1' which would imply a marriage between 1 January and 31 March. (Though I have found at least one example of a marriage listed in the wrong quarter in the GRO Index so mistakes can be, and are, made.)
    The index also gives Anne's surname as McDonald, so I would order the certificate in the name of Robert only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan Roberts View Post
    There is, as far as I know, no problem with that. It's certainly something I do. I think what you could not do would be to publish them in a book that you "sell" to others.
    This is the official government website of ireland:

    http://www.gov.ie/

    I could only find a link to ordering Birth certs on there rather than marriage ones. Didn't occur to me Co. Tyronne records would be accessible from the Northern Irish BMD centre even before 1921.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamelawagster View Post
    These may help.

    www.irishgenealogy.ie/en


    www. rootsireland.ie
    Thank you so much. I am new to Irish record research so your suggestions are much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twigger View Post
    You should be able to order the actual marriage certificate from this site https://www.
    birthsdeathsmarriages.ie/certificates/marriage-certificate/ for a fee.

    However if you are after parents they are in the indexes by 1864
    Grooms Father: Alexnader Scott
    Spouses Father: Daniel McDonald

    This from the Irish Genealogy toolkit gives you an idea what you might expect to see on the full certificate.

    http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.c...rriagecert.jpg
    That sounds a great idea & I will look into ordering the certificate. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    Finding that answer took me a merry few minutes. Definitely went round a few houses doing it! (And not helped by my non-existent Irish geography.)

    The easiest answer would be if you had a local LDS FHC nearby and you could order in the PR film, but the LDS haven't filmed that parish.
    Plan B revealed that that LDS entry was based on the Irish equivalent of the GRO Index (enter the film number in the LDS catalogue), but when I searched that index I got zilch matches. Eventually I found a Robert Scott with an Anne M'Donald (sic) on the same page. Registration district Omagh. Volume 7, page 279. Year 1864.

    I think this is where/how you need to apply for the certificate
    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles...t-certificates
    It'll cost you fifteen quid, and (if the website info is correct) there's currently a 7-10 day backlog on issuing certificates.

    Pam
    I had assumed that the parish register had been filmed by the LDS hence the appearance of the marriage entry on their website. You have certainly opened my eyes to the fact that all is not what I had assumed at all!
    many thanks for your kind & wonderful help.

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