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  1. #21
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    To tidy James CADE record

    St. Mary Bishophill Senior, York, York, England

    James Cade

    Birth Date:19 Apr 1802

    Baptism Date: 25 Apr 1802

    Father: James Cade & Mother: Elizabeth

    Paternal Grandfather's Name:
    Robert Cade

    Maternal Grandfather's Name:
    William Shields

    1st marriage
    James Cade
    Age: 23
    Birth Date:1801
    Marriage Date: 29 Oct 1824
    Marriage Place: York, England
    Spouse: Mary Bishophill



    1851 HO107; Piece: 2052; Folio: 562; Page: 23

    1861 RG 9; Piece: 2136; Folio: 38; Page: 28;

  2. #22
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    Me Thinks there were some lies going around.
    On the marriage to Elizabeth Harvey in 1825 , he said he was a bachelor...
    From your details his first marriage was October 1824, yet he married Elizabeth June 1825 in Aston. The banns say he was 33, but as Elizabeth was 32, perhaps the vicar misheard him. On the censuses he is at least 10 years younger than her.
    What do you think happened to Mary Bishophill. I cannot find a death in that short period of 8 months. Would it be in York or Birmingham. I shall send for the death certificate. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Will let you know when it arrives, if not before if I find anything new. Thanks Lynne

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    What do you think happened to Mary Bishophill
    I think it improbable that Mary BISHOPHILL was her name, it's more likely a mistake and she was either of/or married at St Mary Bishophill. There are no records anywhere for people with surname BISHOPHILL.

    There are these records which also question the name BISHOPHILL.

    Name Thomas Cade Harrison
    Spouse's Name Mary Giles
    Event Date 01 Oct 1857
    Event Place Wilton, York, England
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number I03358-9
    GS Film number 1470533

    Name Thomas Cade Harrison
    Spouse's Name Mary Bishophill
    Event Date 01 Oct 1857
    Event Place Leeds, York, England
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number I03360-3
    GS Film number 1470531

    And from FreeBMD
    Marriages Dec 1857, Harrison Thomas Cade, GILES Mary, York 9d, 61
    Alma

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    Everton St Peter 13 Feb 1865
    Ann Maria HARVEY 22yrs, Nottingham St, father Samuel, machine maker
    James Murray, 20yrs, painter, Rose Vale, father Thomas, painter
    Witnesses: John Atherton and CLARA HARVEY

    Manchester St John, Oct 8 1866
    Samuel HARVEY, 21yrs, musician, Richard St, father Samuel, mechanic
    Sarah Ann Butterworth, 23yrs, Richard St, father Thomas, moulder
    Witnesses: JAMES MURRAY and ANN MARIA MURRAY
    Alma

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    1871, Blackley Manchester. RG10; Piece: 4066; Folio: 129; Page: 23
    Original does say HARVEY
    Samuel Harry [sic] 25, doctor maker steel works, Birmingham
    Sarah Ann Harry 26
    Sarah Ann Harry 10
    Hannel M Harry 3
    Mary Ellen Harry 3 Months
    Sarah Ann Harvey age 10 is possibly Sarah Ann's dau but not Samuel's???

    1881, Blackley, Prestwich. RG11; Piece: 4031; Folio: 85; Page: 22;
    Samuel Harvey 35, mar, Doctor Maker ????, Birmingham
    Mary Ellen Harvey 10, dau, Manchester

    A possible death
    Samuel Harvey, age 41, Prestwich, Oct - Dec 1887, 8d 318
    Alma

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    lynnelay
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    Almach. Thanks for the marriages. I had Ann Maria, bur not Samuel in Manchester. I had searched on many occasions for Samuel Cade Harvey born 1843 and that looks like it could be him. Especially with his sister as a witness. A virtual hug is needed at this point.
    And his children as well That will keep me good for a couple of days.
    Thanks from Lynne

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    I've had a quick look for Thomas Cade Harrison. He must fit in somewhere, but can't see him at the moment.
    As it is in Yorkshire, it must be one of James' sisters children, I think.

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    #22
    yet he married Elizabeth June 1825 in Aston. The banns say he was 33, but as Elizabeth was 32, perhaps the vicar misheard him
    Re visited he was declared as 23 she was 33

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    If any one has access to other than anc. please could they check James Cade marriage Oct 1824. I would like to know who his wife was so I can confirm (or otherwise) her death. Thanks

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    Allan F Sparrow
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    fmp says the same as anc. - Mary Bishophill

    so does familysearch

    no image available on either
    Last edited by Allan F Sparrow; 10-02-2016 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Addition

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