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    Hi Christina,

    I can see why you are listed as a 'super moderator'. Wow! I had not expected so much information so quickly. A pity none of it leads to a current descendant but it is early days yet. 72 Sqn plan to hold a celebration of the squadron's centenary in 2017 and we are hoping to trace descendants of those first airmen in 1917 during the Great War to take part in that. I will keep the forum posted about anything we find. Thanks very much.

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    Lt KM Pennington AFC
    According to this site this man was from South Africa.

    This site tells why he received the AFC and gives his full name as Kenneth Mission Pennington.
    The following is on this site
    "Born in September 1897 in Greytown, Natal, he went first to St. David’s School there and then on to Michaelhouse where he had a highly successful career both in the classroom and on the sports fields. World War 1 interrupted his career. He joined the Royal Flying Corps. was awarded the A.F.C. and mentioned in despatches during his service in Mesopotamia. After the War he went up to Oxford as the Natal Rhodes Scholar, gained his MA and B.C.I., and returned to Natal in 1923. He married Ruth Frampton in that year. They had grown up together in Greytown as children and their marriage was to last over fifty deeply happy and rewarding years. In 1925 he dramatically abandoned his promising career as a barrister at the Natal Bar to become a schoolmaster at his old school. The decision was not only to be of inestimable benefit to Michaelhouse, which he served for the next 34 years, but also gave him full scope during the school holidays to range far and wide over Southern Africa in pursuit of its butterflies. In his years of retirement at ‘Yellowwoods’, originally a Great Trek homestead near Curry’s Post, he began to compile the manuscript of his book; but so great was his interest as a collector in breaking new ground, and so vigorous his health, that much of his time was still spent away from home ‘on safari’ and the manuscript tended to be neglected."

    This could be a difficult one to follow through

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    Lt MS McKay DFC

    I just can't find anything on this man.

    Christina

    Added: I started looking for Lt RDP Pope DFC and a reference to both of them came up on the Royal Air Force Historical Society Journal but nothing to help with his first and middle names.
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    Lt RDP Pope DFC


    This may be him but the middle initial is incorrect
    R P P Pope
    2nd Lieutenant
    Royal Flying Corps
    British War Medal and Victory Medal


    As with M S McKay the only reference I can find is in Royal Air Force Historical Society Journal


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    if this is your man it is highly unlikely he has any direct descendents as his parents are named as NOK.
    Lieutenant Trevor Lewis Williams
    Date of Death 1 January 1919
    Age 21
    Regiment - Royal Air Force 72nd Sqdn.
    Grave Reference. C. 2.
    Cemetery - Baghdad (North gate War Cemetery)
    Son of Thomas and Margaret Williams, of Ynys House, Pontardulais, Swansea.
    However he was from a large family so plenty to follow through.

    1911 census
    Llandeilo Talybont
    Thomas Williams Farmer born Pontardulais Glamorgan
    Margaret Williams 41 Pontardulais
    Wm Howell Williams 19 Pontardulais
    Annie Williams 18 Pontardulais
    John Albert Williams 16 Pontardulais
    Trevor Lewis Williams 12 Pontardulais
    Margaret Mary Williams 10 Panty Llyuwen
    Daviel Leigh Williams 8 Panty Llyuwen
    Glyn Earvin Williams 4 Panty Llyuwen
    Edgar Thomas Williams 2 Panty Llyuwen

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    The information below is from a public tree on ancestry. There are no marriages or children recorded to any of these people sothey will have to be ferreted out.
    Wm Howell Williams
    Birth June 1891 Llandeilo Talybont, Glamorgan, Wales
    Death 1986

    Annie Williams
    Birth c 1893 Pantyffynnon,Llanedi, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    Death 1988

    John Albert Williams
    Birth c1894 Pontardulais, Glamorganshire
    Death Unknown

    Margaretta Mary Williams
    Birth October 1900 Panty Llyuwen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    Death Sept 1/4 1954 Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales

    David Leigh Williams
    Birth 15 May 1902 Fferm Pantyffynnon,Llanedi, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    Death March 1982 Carmarthen, Dyfed, Wales

    Glyn Euryn Williams
    Birth 18 Ded 1906 Pant y Ffynnon, Llanedi, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    Death June 1972 West Glamorgan, Glamorganshire, Wales

    Edgar Thomas Williams
    Birth July 1908 Fferm Pant-y-ffynnon, Llanedi, Carmarthenshire
    Death Octoberr 2002 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

    Reverand Wyndham Haydn Williams
    Birth 1 April 1914 Llandeilo Talybont, Glamorgan, Wales
    Death March 1988 Llanelli, Camarthenshire, Wales
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    Thanks Christina,

    What a strange combination of surnames for Westendarp's spouse. Married three times before? Perhaps Harold and Oscar are not the same man?

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    Thanks for all the follow up research Christina. All very useful and in the case of Williams I think we can give up the search for direct descendants in his case.

    Yours

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomdocherty72 View Post
    Thanks Christina,

    What a strange combination of surnames for Westendarp's spouse. Married three times before? Perhaps Harold and Oscar are not the same man?
    Yes that is what I was thinking. The tree on ancestry has no source and the only way to be sure would be to get the marriage certificate.

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    Lt H F C Cannell - Hugh Featherstone Cameron Cannell

    Information on CWGC
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    Date of Death - 31/10/1918Age - 25
    Regiment/Service - 1st Duke of York's Lancers (Skinner's Horse) and 72nd Sqdn. Royal Air Force
    Panel Reference - Panel 44.Memorial Basra Memorial
    Additional Information
    Only son of Cameron Corlett Cannell and Eva M. H. Cannell of the Literary Institute, Haig St., Perth, Western Australia. Had just returned from a special mission (flight) to Persia.

    From a tree on ancestry
    Siblings

    Constance Christine Cannell
    Birth 1892 Penge, Kent, England
    Died 1973 Perth, Western Australia

    Eva R Cannell
    Birth 1897 Bagshot, Surrey, England
    Death Unknown

    Edith Heather C Cannell
    Birth October 1898 Bagshot, Surrey, England
    Death Unknown

    So some to try and follow through later today.

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