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    Quote Originally Posted by helachau View Post
    A Mr Woodhall, brewer, West Bromwich relinquished the lease of a "Full Licensed Public House, the Turk's Head Hotel, Wednesbury, together with two retail units, a brewery and other premises on 30 March 1895".
    Where did you find this?

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    Staffordshire Archives is the place to look for West Bromwich. It takes a bit clicking around but - if this is the family - you should be able to push back their association with beer to the beginning of the 19th century. First up: a Thomas Woodhall occupying some property near Dagger Hall, https://www.archives.staffordshire.go...woodhall%27%29. But things get better if you can find the Search Name Index section - a Thomas Woodhall (same man?), victualler, was a juror in about 1811. https://www.staffsnameindexes.org.uk/StartPage.aspx?. None of this has been digitised so, if anything was really relevant, you would have to ask them for a quote.

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    Perhaps it should be pointed out, if you did not realise it before, that at that time many pubs brewed their own beer, usually on the pub premises , or close by. On occasion they went on to brew for other pubs or beerhouses also and this is how many of the brewery names we remember originated. Often the brewing would be carried out by someone other than the publican himself, and for small pubs the brewer sometimes serviced several pubs, going from one to the other.. I think that retail brewer refers to the publican in a pub that brews its own beer, not necessarily by the publican himself.

    That said Hitchmough's "Black Country pubs" gives some information. I have searched the West Bromwich list (it is on CD) and found out the following. Note I have omitted a number of later Woodhalls(1910 on) and only searched the West Bromwich pdf. I looked at the Wednesbury one fro ?Thomas (nothing), but there were a lot of other Woodhalls and the Samuel;s brewery.. Probably more in other areas

    Thomas Woodhall is landlord of the Red Lion 190 All Saints Way (48 all Saints Road/St)Churchfield , West Bromwich in 1818 and held a Friendly Society fortnightly.


    Samuel Woodhall or Samuel Woodhall Ltd owned several pubs for periods of time (when not given, but ones listed are:
    Bird in Hand 58 High St./Castle St, Hill top West Bromwich
    The Boat, Greets Green Road, West Bromwich
    Churchfield Tavern, 18 Little Lane (Tenscore St) Lyndon, West Bromwich
    (Paul Woodhall landlord 1858-72, Henry Woodhall 1888-90)
    Flower pot , 131 Spon lane
    Fox & Dogs, 40 High ST, Heath, West Bromwich
    (Samuel Woodhall is listed as landlord in 1885 & 1891-1920 and Samuel Woodhall's Borough brewery was erected behind the pub in 1885)
    The George, 109 Phoenix St, Swan Village, West Bromwich
    The Globe, 46 New St, hill Top, West Bromwich
    The Leopard, 33 Moor St ,West Bromwich
    The Nags Head, Church Lane, Ridgeacre, West Bromwich (1912)
    (Samuel Woodhall was landlord 1899-1907)
    Ye Olde Wine Shoppe. 89 High St, West Bromwich
    (Samuel Woodhall landlord 1899-97)
    Oliver Cromwell, 128 Wood Lane, West Bromwich (1896)
    Prince Albert 121 Sams Lane, West Bromwich
    (Samuel Woodhall landlord 1889-94)
    Prince of Wales, 34 Paradise St, West Bromwich,
    Queens Head, 35 Gt Bridge St, West Bromwich
    RoyaL Oak, 14 Newton St, West Bromwich,
    Twelve Bells, 34 Bratt St, West Bromwich
    Wellington, 101 Gt Bridge St, West Bromwich (1898)

    In addition George Woodhall was landlord of the, Horse Shoe, 198 High St, West Bromwich, 1883-4 & 189-90; Golden Cup, 40 Cross St, Lyng, West Bromwich, 1906-9 ; Black Boy, 1923; Royal Exchange , 82 Walsall St, West bromwich, 1903-6 & 1909-1922
    William Woodhall landlord of the Inkerman Cottage, 21 Old Meeting St, 1880-83 & aquired tyhe licence of the White Lion, Woodward St in 1883
    Ellen Woodhall landlord of Prince of Wales 130 High St, West Bromwich, 1892-94
    Warwick Woodhall gave up a licence for an un-named beerhouse in the High St in 1877, which was taken over by Samuel Warwick Woodhall and carried on till 1880, then by Warwick Woodhall till 1888.

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    Brilliant mikejee. Thank you

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    Licensing Registers can be very informative about pubs and brewers.

    The West Bromwich registers for this period are at Sandwell Community History and Archives Service (not Staffordshire Archives)

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    Thanks Peter, I'll try and get in touch With them

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    British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch...-43#anchorn344

    Click on "Brewing"
    Check out also "fn.344"
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Thanks again. I've just ordered the book

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