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    I am looking for information on William Baugh Pickering, born 2nd April 1844, in county Essex, son of John, born 11th March 1808, baptized at Bermondsey, mother Rebecca Elizabeth Turney, Westerham. William's second wife Emma Beatrice Curson, born 16th April 1860. Looking for any siblings of William and Beatrice. We do have names of their children who emigrated to South Africa in 1889.

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    I have had a brief look around and found the following, William B PICKERING appears to have married a relative!

    1865 Marriage Newington 1d 361 to MARY ANN HODGES

    1877 Mary Ann PICKERING aged 31 Camberwell 1d 506 Did she die in childbirth?

    1881
    RG 11 682 121 53
    8, Woods Terrace (Woods Road), Camberwell, London, England
    DIVERS John head 1795 Goodnestone Kent
    DIVER Matilda Elizabeth 1809 Finsbury
    PICKERING William BAUGH grandson 1844 Clerk Builders Soithwark
    PICKERING Lilian grand child 1874 Peckham
    PICKERING Amy Louisa 1877 grand child Peckham
    CURSON Emma Beatrice 1862 Greenwich
    CHANCE Maria 1865 Servant Dalston

    1882 21 Feb Marriage Camberwell 1d 869 to Emma Beatrice CURSON
    https://www.certificate-exchange.co.u...hp?CertID=2207


    From: www.eggsa.org/newspapers
    17/02/1890 of Fever Henry Curson 2nd son of William B & Emma B aged 5 years 1 month
    12/04/1890 at Standerton the wife of William Baugh PICKERING a son


    Family gravestone
    https://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=772291

    There is the suggestion that William & Beatrice had at least 10 children

    Not sure how some of this fits in with your records particularly as JOhn DIVERS appears to be a grandparent

    William Baugh Pickering, born 2nd April 1844, in county Essex, son of John, born 11th March 1808, baptized at Bermondsey, mother Rebecca Elizabeth Turney, Westerham

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    Hi
    I have separated your post about William and given it a place of its own in the Essex forum because the Introduce Yourself forum is for doing just that.
    It now has a better chance of being seen by more members.
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    There is a public tree on ancestry that has these children of John Pickering and Rebecca Elizabeth Turney 1807.

    Samuel Pickering 1839,
    John J Pickering1840,
    Elizabeth A Pickering1842,
    William Baugh Pickering1844
    Thomas Turney Pickering1846,
    Alexander Schlüsser Pickering1852 – 1919

    All except John are together on the 1861 census. I can't read whether Rebecca is married or widowed.
    RG 9 Piece 388 Folio 74; Page 36
    4 Marlborough Terrace Old Kent Road
    Rebecca E Pickering 54 Head Westerham Kent
    Samuel Pickering 22 Drug dealer Newington Surrey
    John J Pickering 21 Banker;s clerk Newington Surrey
    Elizabeth A Pickering 19 Newington Surrey
    William B Pickering 17 Mercantile Clerk Newington Surrey
    Thomas T Pickering 15 Deptford Hampshire
    Alexander S Pickering 9 Deptford Hampshire
    Mary Owen 21 servant
    George Collins 30 visitor banker's clerk

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    All the above children's baptisms are on ancestry. If you don't have access to it your local library may have the free version.
    There is also one other child Ann Emily bpt 1843.
    There are two deaths of an Ann E Pickering 1843-1861 that could be her. Both in 1857 in Thanet Kent and Greenwich. Of course she just may be somewhere else in 1861.
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    1851 HO107 piece 1584 folio 10 page 13
    Victoria Cottage St Paul Deptford
    John Pickering 43 Drug Broker Bermondsey Surrey
    Rebecca E Pickering 44 Westerham Kent
    Elizabeth A Pickering 9 Newington
    William B Pickering 6 Newington Surrey
    Thomas T Pickering 5 Hatcham Surrey
    Elizabeth Lepcombe 22 servant
    Mary Jones 19 servant
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    Young Samuel looks to be with his maternal grandparents in 1841 although relationships are not stated. Ages were also rounded down to the nearest 5.
    HO107 piece 485 book 14 folio 8 page 8
    Westerham Kent
    Thomas turney 70
    Ann Turney 65
    Ann Turney 36
    Edward turney 25
    Eliza Turney 25
    Mary Baugh 40
    Samuel Pickering 2

    Also a Mary Baugh so who does she belong to?

    Added: Samuel and Alexander were granted probate of Rebecca Elizabeth's will in 1881

    Baptism
    Rebecca Elizabeth Turney
    Baptised 13 Jul 1806 at Westerham, Kent, England
    Father -Thomas Turney
    Mother -Anne
    FHL Film Number -1469268
    Reference ID -item 8

    Four other children baptized to this couple at Westerham - see familysearch although I got them on ancestry.
    Catherine 7 Aug 1808
    Emily 4 Jan 1818
    Eliza 13 July 1814
    Maria 19 August 1810 - I wonder if this is the Mary Baugh in the 1841 census? Her married name?
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    I am wondering if we should be looking for a BAUGH connection to the family, if I have picked up the correct family birth registration...

    JOhn T = John TURNEY

    Elizabeth A = Elizabeth Ann

    Wiliam B = William Baugh

    Thomas T= Thomas TURNEY

    Alexander S = Alexander SCHLUSSER

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    We do have names of their children who emigrated to South Africa in 1889.
    19 January 1883
    London Morning Post
    On 16th inst at Melbourne Grove E Dulwich the wife of William B PICKERING a son

    This could be William Alexander b 1883 Camberwell

    We now know from the grave stone that William & Beatrice had a large family, some born before leaving the UK.
    Unfortunately theses children would be born between 1882 - 1889 when they left the UK and will not appear on a UK census

    The only resource available to us are the birth marriage & death certificates, which as you probably know are filed in quarters, under surname and area of event.
    However if you look at Freebmd.org.uk for PICKERING, years 1882 - 1889, I selected Camberwell as the last know area you will see there are a number of PICKERING births including one that would fit the child Henry Curson who may be Henry Charles.

    Checking Parish Registers ( familysearch.org may have these) to see if the child was baptised & who the parents are will confirm some of the children

    YOU indicate you know which child sailed, can you tell us these. At least we can then start to eliminate others

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    England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
    Mary Turney
    Marriage
    13 May 1826
    Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey
    Spouse - William Baugh

    Mary is with her parents in 1841 post #7
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