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    Default Daniel Joseph Bruyn born abt 1812 Roscommon

    All help appreciated. He was a blacksmith and married Sarah Nicholls in England. English Census records provide Roscommon as his place of birth and he died in Australia in 1882 aged 69

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    Hello Wayne

    I have just been doing some general searching to get an idea of this man. He died in Dungog NSW? There was also a Daniel Justyn Bruyn who took his own life in Dungog in 1912. There are coroner's inquest register records for both these men.
    Daniel Justyn Bruyn was apparently born in France, son of Daniel and Sarah and very involved with the Dungog community.

    OK so that is a little background for us to work from.

    Added: Travelled to Australia on the 1 May 1856
    Ship - Commodore Perry
    Origin Location - Farbane, County Offaly a.k.a. Kings, Ireland
    Daniel 43, Roscommon, Sarah 49 Staffordshire, Margaret 18 Warwickshire, Ellen 16 Staffs, Elizabeth 14 Staffordshire, Daniel 9, Graville? Havre Seine France, Sarah M 6 Staffordshire.

    Plus two other children Joseph 1835 and Esther 1840, both born Staffordshire.


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    On the shipping record Daniel says his parents were Edward and Margaret Bruyn both deceased.
    Sarah's parents Joseph, deceased, mother Anne living at Smethwick.

    I have spent quite a while looking for records for Daniel Bruyn (and various other spellings) but can find nothing other than what you probably already have. Plenty for Dungog in the newspapers.
    The only other clue to his origins is the shipping record that says he was born Killaquin (meant to be Killukin?) Roscommon, Ireland.

    I am presuming that he and Sarah were married in Staffordshire as she always states her place of birth as Smethwick Staffordshire and the earliest children's births I can find are in Staffordshire.

    I have looked at the parish of Smethwick on Genuki. There appears to be only one church that was in Smethwick early enough to be the church for a marriage but the family are all recorded as RC on the shipping record so theymay have married elsewhere.

    I can't find an Edward or Margaret Bruyn as yet.
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    On familysearch

    Edwd Bruin
    Tax Assessment - 1825
    Town Graffoge Parish - Bumlin Roscommon
    GS Film number: 256576
    Digital Folder Number: 004587409

    Bumlin is about 25 klm from Killukin

    And this

    Ed Bruen
    Tax Assessment 1833
    Town Great Meadow And Fryars Park Parish -Boyle. Roscommon

    You can view the original image on familysearch.org
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    Thanks yes that is the family. The lived in France and I am told they escaped at the beginning of the second Industrial Revolution. I have the birth in 1845 and Death 1846 records for Mary Bruyn and the Birth of Daniel Justin Bruyn in 1847 all in Graville. These are the only records I have seen with Daniel and Sarah's middle names.

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    Joseph Bruyn is actually Joseph Nicholls and he married as Nicholls. It was only after him, his wife and children arrived in Australia their surname was Bruyn and not Nicholls.

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    They arrived on the Daphney

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    Yes Daniel and Sarah were married in England and I am told her mother is Anne King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Cook View Post
    Joseph Bruyn is actually Joseph Nicholls and he married as Nicholls. It was only after him, his wife and children arrived in Australia their surname was Bruyn and not Nicholls.
    It's early in the morning and you have lost me with this one Wayne.

    Are you saying that Daniel Joseph Bruyn born 1805 Roscommon Ireland was actually a Joseph Nicholls who married a Sarah Nicholls in England, then before leaving England he changed his name to Bruyn and was named on the ship's manifest as Bruyn?

    The children of Daniel and Sarah were registered as Bruyn


    Births Dec 1/4 1839
    Ellen Bruyn Kings Norton 18/382

    Births Dec 1/4 1841
    Elizabeth Ann Bruyn Kings Norton 18/392

    Births Mar 1/4 1850
    Sarah Malvina Bruyn Kings Norton 18/425

    I'll wait for you to get back to me to do any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Cook View Post
    They arrived on the Daphney
    This is the shipping record I found on ancestry, so where did the record for travelling to OZ on the Daphney come from?

    Travelled to Australia on the 1 May 1856
    Ship - Commodore Perry
    Origin Location - Farbane, County Offaly a.k.a. Kings, Ireland
    Daniel Bruyn 43, Roscommon,
    Sarah 49 Staffordshire,
    Margaret 18 Warwickshire,
    Ellen 16 Staffs,
    Elizabeth 14 Staffordshire,
    Daniel 9, Graville? Havre Seine France,
    Sarah M 6 Staffordshire.
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