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    Default William Robert Charlton 457859

    Is anyone researching William Robert Charlton, Royal Engineers, 457859, who died 12th September 1918. He was from Morpeth Northumberland. This is all the information I have about him and I would like to know more. Please email cool_cool40 AT hotmail DOTcom
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    Default William Robert Charlton, 1886-1918

    Hi, and a warm welcome to BritGen...

    Ancestry's brief record shows that William Robert Charlton was born in Morpeth (and a quick check on FreeBMD that his birth was registered in that district in the March quarter of 1886). He enlisted at Newcastle-on-Tyne and, as you already know, was a Sapper in the Royal Engineers. He was in the 447th Field Coy. He died on 12 September 1918.

    If you go to The National Archives (TNA) and search the online catalogue, Discovery, you will find that there are twelve hits for his name in the years 1914-1918 - all Medal Index Cards, but none with the exact number that you gave (which also appears on Ancestry). You will need to investigate.

    Sorry, but that's as far as I've got and it may be a reprise of info you have already. Off to roost now.

    Owl

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    From the CWGS
    W R Charlton
    Sapper
    Service number 457859
    Date of Death 12 Sept. 1918
    Royal Engineers
    447th Field Coy.
    Grave Reference II. K. 4.
    Cemetery - Neiderzwehren

    As Owl says the records on ancestry don't match up with the service number given.

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    William J Charlton
    Regiment or Corps - Royal Engineers
    Regimental Number - T/3022, 457850

    I think this is the the most likely candidate and just as with ancestry has mistranscribed the middle initial it is possible the last digit has been written on the original medal card image wrongly or the CWGS has mistaken a 0 for a 9. So on the original medal card the middle initial is R.
    You can also see the medal cards on The National Archives site but ancestry's are in colour and show both back and front of the card although the back does not always have any extra information.

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    Thank you to Christanel and the wideeyedowl for your help. It is very much appreciated. My friend had found the 'death penny' for Wm Robert and we became intrigued by his story and wrote a song about him. It is good to know more. I will search further. Best wishes.

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    The "Soldiers Died" database shows his casualty type simply as "died" rather than "died of wounds" or "killed in action". "Died" often implies disease = perhaps the 1918 flu pandemic. His death certificate (obtainable from Overseas Section of GRO) may clarify matters.

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    Thank you Peter Goodey!

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    Hi, I know this post in many years old but I am also researching charltons from morpeth, I have not come across this name as yet?
    Just wondering if you know anything of his parentage?

    Thanks x

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    William Robert Charlton
    March 1/4 1886
    Registration district - Morpeth, Northumberland
    Vol 10b Page 348
    Mother's maiden name - Turner

    Christening
    William Robert Charlton
    Residence - Morpeth, Northumberland, England
    Christened 3 April 1886 at Morpeth, Northumberland, England
    Father - Robert Charlton
    Mother - Elizabeth

    marriage - on same page FreeBMD
    Robert Charlton and Elizabeth Turner
    Registration district - Newcastle upon Tyne, Dec 1/4 1885, vol 10b page 118

    1891 census RG12 Piece 4254 Folio 86 Page 10
    Morpeth, Northumberland
    Bullers Green
    Robert Charlton 38 stone mason
    Elizabeth Charlton 33
    William Robt Charlton 5
    All born Morpeth

    There is another Charlton family further up the page. John George Charlton age 33, stone mason, his wife Elizabeth and their five children ranging in age from 1 to 12. A possible brother for Robert?

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