Hannah PAGE

[maureenann]

I have a Hannah Page born c1829 in Plaistow, Essex.

In 1841 and 1851 she is in Cavendish, Suffolk with her grandparents Joseph and
Ursula Page. I assume that her mother died maybe at childbirth or while Hannah
was very young.

In 1861 she is living with her father Edward Page and her stepmother.

I am trying to find out who her mother was.

Can anyone help?

Maureen

[christanel]

Hi Maureen
Do you have Hannah's father in the 1841 and 1851 censuses?

I found these. Is he your Edward?

HO107 piece 1032 book 13 folio 34 page 21
Haverhill Parish
Edward Page 35 Blacksmith
Harriet Page 45

1851 HO107 piece 1032 book 13 folio 34 page 21
Visiting with Louisa Parmenter. he is a carriage spring maker age 45 born Cavendish.

[Allan F Sparrow]

There are five Edward Page marriages in Suffolk between 1813 and 1828 at FMP, but I have no means of knowing if any of them are relevant. None are near Haverhill, most being in Ipswich.

[Allan F Sparrow]

I see from the 1851 census that Joseph was from Surrey and Hannah was born in Middlesex, while Joseph's grandson John was born in Essex, so my previous post may well be totally irrelevant!

Is it possible that the Hannah aged 30 of the 1841 census was the mother of the girl Hannah recorded there in 1841 and 1851. The elder Hannah could be daughter or daughter in law of Joseph and Ursula. She's not present in 1851, whereas Naomi, was on both 1841 and 1851 censuses, described as daughter in 1851.

[maureenann]

Hi Maureen
Do you have Hannah's father in the 1841 and 1851 censuses?

I found these. Is he your Edward?

HO107 piece 1032 book 13 folio 34 page 21
Haverhill Parish
Edward Page 35 Blacksmith
Harriet Page 45

1851 HO107 piece 1032 book 13 folio 34 page 21
Visiting with Louisa Parmenter. he is a carriage spring maker age 45 born Cavendish.

The Edward in Haverhill is the second husband of my 4 x great grandmother. I am trying to find out what happened
to him after 1841. I found Hannah's father but am not sure if he is the same person.

i am trying to find out who Hannah's mother is and whether she died, as I suspect, leaving Edward free to marry Harriet.

I

[geneius]

Something NOT right here!

Edward PAGE who married Harriett HORTON ( HOUGHTON) indicates he was 35 o the 1851 census giving him a year of birth of 1806

You are looking for a

I have a Hannah Page born c1829 in Plaistow, Essex.

Edward Coachsmith is with a wife Mary Ann & Hannah on the 1861 census RG 9; Piece: 87; Folio: 11; Page: 21 so maybe the visitor entry is not the Edward maureenann is looking for !

Original post re family https://www.british-genealogy.com/for...HOUGHTON/page2

[geneius]

I think there are 2 Edward PAGE's both born 1806 one a blacksmith the other a coachsmith, the latter has 3 marriages in 1855 he marries a Mary Ann and in 1872 another Mary Ann, this is the person who seems to be the father of Hannah 1829 and not the Edward being looked for!

[christanel]

Hi
I am going to step back from this one. I have been doing some seriously hard yakka in the yard and I can't guarantee a fully functioning brain cell (yep, just the one!)

Christina

[Allan F Sparrow]

Things seem to have become complicated while I've been sleeping!

This morning, I have found what seems to be the elder Hannah of 1841, in the 1851 census, unmarried, in the household of a brother Robert (born abt 1818), born and living in Cavendish. Hannah is said to be 40, a visitor.

In 1861 Naomi, who was with Joseph and Ursula in 1841 and 1851, was in the same Robert's household, but the elder Hannah is not there.

Just trying to get the family context, as it may be very important.

I'm now going to take a look at some relevant CDs.

[Allan F Sparrow]

In this situation, that is with a name as common as Edward Page, some lateral thinking may be necessary to get the family context, so:-

Joseph Page married Ursula French at Cavendish on 30 Dec 1796

The children of Joseph and Ursula baptised in Cavendish from 1813 were:-

John, b 25 May 1814, bap 2 June

EDWARD, b 12 Nov 1805, bap 13 June 1814 - note says parents are Baptists

HANNAH, b 5 Nov 1808, bap 13 June 1814, same note as Edward

Naomi, b 6 Jan 1812, bap 13 June 1814, same note as Edward

Robert, b 27 July 1817, bap 10 Aug, same note as Edward

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Baptised at Cavendish on 10 March 1839: John Offord Page, son of Hannah Page, b 29 Jan in Yeldham, Essex

I did not see a baptism for the younger Hannah.

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A Hannah Page was buried at Cavendish on 9 Dec 1855 said to be 47, i.e.born abt 1808.

Another Hannah was buried at Cavendish on 5 Nov 1892 aged 75, i.e. born abt 1817.

Joseph Page was buried at Cavendish on 20 Sep 1852 aged 75, i.e. born abt 1777.

Ursula Page was buried at Cavendish on 11 Feb 1855 aged 80, i.e. born abt 1774/5.

Naomi Page was buried at Cavendish on 15 Nov 1868 aged 57, i.e. born abt 1811.

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None of the Edward Page marriages recorded in Suffolk in 1813-37 seems very likely to be the Edward born in Cavendish, as three were in Ipswich, in 1813, 1827 and 1828, and the other in Bury St Edmunds in 1833. The last was of Edward widower to Hannah Houghton widow. The 1827 one was Edward widower to Hannah Garnham.

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Somewhere among these facts lies something of the truth!

Incidentally, I did not find Edward in the 1861 census, so probably I had my search terms wrong.