Hi everyone,
I am trying to find information regarding my dads family, who were Gypsies on Hurtwood Common.
My gran was phoebe Hoadley Roberts born to Annie Bonwick and Philip Chapman (was Roberts). phoebes' siblings Were: Caleb, Henry, James, William, Arthur. All living in one Gypsy Tent 1911 in Caterham.
Philip Chapman and Annie Bonwick my gt.grand parents also lived on Hurtwood Common Peaslake, Shere near Guildford. Which is where my aunties were born in a gypsy tent there...all seven children born on Hurtwood and three born on Field Common.
They were moved off in 1934 to Field Common Walton on Thames Surrey by the council.
Many Thanks
Sheila Anne Fagence-Sewell
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27-12-2013, 9:40 PM #1billyboy38Guest
Bonwick,Hoadley,Fagence, Roberts Chapman
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27-12-2013, 9:53 PM #2
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Hello Sheila & welcome for starters
These are the entry's in the GRO bith / marriages / death ( certification aas we know it!)
If you need to obtain the certificates, these cost £9.25 from www.gro.gov.uk, you will need the info below. note the mistranscription of Phoeby/Phoebe surname!
BIRTH
Phoeby Hoadley Roberts
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
Registration District: Godstone
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 225
MARRIAGE
Phoebe Ogley
Fagence
Oct-Nov-Dec 1928
Guildford
Surrey
2a
298
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27-12-2013, 10:07 PM #3
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1891 census
RG12; Piece: 574; Folio: 45; Page: 20
Little Brooks ( in Barn)
Ockley Surrey
CHAPMAN Elizabeth
39 Single Hawker Chatham Kent
CHAPMAN Eliza
17 Single Hawker Hartfield Kent
CHAPMAN Hervey
10 Leigh Surrey
CHAPMAN Philip
10 Leigh Surrey
CHAPMAN Alice
7 Newdigate? Surrey
CHAPMAN James
4 Lindfield Surrey
CHAPMAN Caleb
1 Newdigate Surrey
Hawker Kent
Camped with
In a Tent
PARRY Cornelius 44 Hawker London
PARRY Charlotte 38 Canterbury
PARRY James 6 Bristol
PARRY Thomas 7months Fleet Chatham
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27-12-2013, 10:08 PM #4billyboy38Guest
Hi geneius,
Many Thanks for your help, much appreciated. :-)
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27-12-2013, 10:22 PM #5billyboy38Guest
Thank you so much...!! :-)
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27-12-2013, 10:27 PM #6
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Philip ROBERTS
Birth 1881
Death March 1963
Aged 82
District Surrey North Western
Vol 5g
Page 1181
Latest Census
North Park Goldstone
One GYPSY TENT
ROBERTS Philip 30 Lab leigh
ROBERTS Annie 26 Croyden
ROBERTS Philip 7 Cranleigh
ROBERTS Phoebe 2 Godstone
ROBERTS James 7/12 Balcombe
JANES Arthur 15 visitor London
The census indicates the couple have been married 8 years and had 4/4 living children. One appears to be missing from the census! They appear to be pitched between the Gamekeepers cottage Chalkpit Cottage Godstone Road & Gables Whitehill
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27-12-2013, 10:50 PM #7
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Mary CHAPMAN / ROBERTS nee JONES / BONWICK
1891 RG13 633
Tidcombe Farm Godstone
JONES Henry 46 Ag Lab Marsh Green Sussex
JONES Amelia 48 Lindfield
JONES Mary A 11 Croyden
JONES James 9 Croyden
JONES Alfred 5 Croyden
JONES Sarah 3 Croyden
1881 RG12; Piece: 586; Folio: 85; Page: 38
13 Napier Road Croyden
BONWICK Hy ( Henry )34 Hawker Edenbridge Kent
BONWICK Amelia 28 Lindfield
BONWICK Jno 9 Croyden
BONWICK Mary Ann 6 Croyden
LIVING Next door
11 Napier Road
STANLEY John Hawker 22 Croyden
STANLEY Augusta A 20 Kensington
Not sure where to 'take' you now!
It is not unusual for male romany to change their surname to that of their mothers maiden name.....I think you may find when
romany are 'pitched together they are related' which is why I have given you the info.
the 1881 census can be viewed free on subscription sites together with www.familysearch.org ( includes church records)
certificate / event look up is at www.freebmd.org.uk
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01-12-2018, 9:00 PM #8
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Dear Sheila
My name is Catherine Hodgkin
My granddad was Caleb Chapman and my Grandmother Caroline Seers I had relatives living in Field common too.
I wonder if we might be able to find some more information together by sharing information.
All best wishes Catherine
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01-12-2018, 10:47 PM #9
Welcome to the British-Genealogy forums Catherine,
Sheila hasn't been on the forums since she posted this message but if she still has the same email address as when she joined she should receive an email notification of your post. Another way to get in touch is by private message (pm) which you do by clicking on her user name and choosing Private message from the drop down menu. This also depends on her having the same email email address.
Good luck
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
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