well i have found all the murphy family inthe 1901 dublin census 172 leeson park avenue
which gives
john murphy born 1850 stableman
anne murphy born 1851
with some of the children
but it seems in the 1911 dublin census 1 westmoreland park ann murphy was a widow,cannot find the death date or the grave of john murphy can you help please,
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17-12-2013, 3:02 PM #1bobdunford6Guest
John Murphy born Dublin 1850 died ?
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17-12-2013, 10:52 PM #2
Hello
I have separated this post from your thread in the Introduce Yourself forum to give it more exposure to all our BG sleuths.
Hopefully someone will be able to give you some leads on John before too long.
ChristanelSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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18-12-2013, 4:03 PM #3bobdunford6Guest
i have a lot more i will tell you of next time thank you again,
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19-12-2013, 2:06 AM #4
At first when I started searching for a possible death for John I thought there were going to be too many to sort him out but trusting that his age was recorded according to the 1901 census this is the most likely one.
John Murphy
Date of Registration - Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
Death Age - 58 Estimated Birth Year - about 1851
Registration District - Dublin South
Death Country - Ireland
Vol - 2
Page - 522
FHL Film Number - 0101604
ChristanelSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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19-12-2013, 1:17 PM #5bobdunford6Guest
i think you could be right
i have 1901 dublin census
residents of a house 172 in leeson park avenue (rathmines & rathgar east,dublin
SURNAME FORENAME AGE SEX RELATION TO HEAD RELIGION BIRTHPLACE OCCUPATION LITERACY MARITAL STATUS
kelly mary 6 female grand child roman catholic dublin scholar cannot read not married
greeg maria 49 female head of family church of ireland monaghan private income read & write widow
murphy anne 50 female servant roman catholic wicklow servant read & write married
murphy john 51 male roman catholic dublin stable man read & write married
murphy michael 14 male son roman catholic dublin scholar read& write not married
murphy thomas 11 male son roman catholic dublin scholar read& write not married
murphy patrick 19 male son roman catholic dublin van driver read& write not married
maria kerr daughter of william kerr clergy man,church of ireland. from monaghan married william burrough gregg from ulster another clergy man church of ireland at st peters church dublin 2 august 1870,they moved into 29 leeson park avenue,there in 1871 there son henry burroughs greeg was born.
in 1898 william burroughs greeg died at 81 grosvenor sq rathmines dublin leaving everything to his wife maria elizabeth greeg of 29 leeson park avenue dublin
on the 30 dec 1904 maria greeg died leaving everythingto her son henry greeg
so 29 leeson park avenue was sold ,and the murphy family had to move out,
then with glasnevin cemetry help found another son john murphy born 1876 van driver died 2nd of april 1901,age 25,at leeson park avenue dublin,mother anne murphy of the same address informed glasnevin cemetry of his death,
1911 census residents of a house 1.2 in westmoreland park(rathmines & rathgar east,dublin)
SURNAME FORENAME AGE SEX RELATION TO HEAD RELIGION BIRTHPLACE OCCUPATION LITRERACY MARITAL STAUS
murphy peter 39 male son roman catholic dublin grocer porter read & write not married
murphy patrick 28 male son roman catholic dublin general labourer read&write not married
murphy thomas 21 male son roman catholic dublin grocer porter read& write not married
murphy ann 60 female head of family roman catholic dublin daley worker read & write widow
kelly ginney 16 female grand daughter roman catholic dublin school read& write single
murphy dick 16 male grand son roman catholic dublin school read& write single
murphy mary 14 female grand daughter roman catholc dublin school read& write single
murphy peter 8 male grand son roman catholic dublin school read & write single
now first cannot find maiden name of ann murphy born 1851
peter and patrick never married ,john died in 1901 not married ,thomas married mary ann duffy in 1921
leaving only michael murphy who cannot be the father of the gransons and grand daughters he was born in 1887,so there must have been more sons to be the father and a daughter who married a kelly.Last edited by bobdunford6; 19-12-2013 at 1:20 PM. Reason: wrong date
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19-12-2013, 1:43 PM #6bobdunford6Guest
john and ann murphy
more on the murphy family
the murphy family grave
mount jerome dublin
NAME DATE OF DEATH AGE PLACE OF DEATH ATTESTANT BIRTH
thomas murphy 13 dec 1937 48 sir patrick dunn hospital dublin mary murphy wife 1889
of 28 monasterbolce road
peter murphy 8th jan 1943 71 dublin union hospital micheal murphy brother 1872
of 1 westmoreland park
thomas murphy 30 th sept 1956 33 st kevins hospital patrick francis murphy brother 1923
122 keogh sq.inchecore
mary ann mnurphy 4th nov 1982 82 st james hospital 1900
mary ann murphy 2nd feb 1999 72 st james hospital 1927
patrick murphy 6th april 2003 78 st james hospital william murphy brother 1925
christina murphy 30 th dec 2008 77 glen carraig nursing home william murphy broth 1929
jane rosaleen murphy 26th july 2011 80 bradford england william murphy brother 1931
this is all i have found hoping this will help
so you will see in 1943 the murphy.family, still lived at 1 westmoreland park
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10-01-2014, 5:39 PM #7bobdunford6Guest
i have been sent this from church records irish genealogy they think they have found john murphy marraige to ann murphy ,but it does not state she was born in county wicklow,
AREA DUBLIN (RC),parish /church/congregation-st mary ,pro cathedral
MARRAIGE OF JOANESS MURPHY OF 21 GREEN STREET AND ANNE MOORE OF 21 GREEN STREET ON 24 JANUARY 1870
HUSBAND WIFE
NAME joaness murphy anne moore
address 21 green street 21 green street
occupation n/a n/a
father joannis murphy thomas moore
mother mariae hannae
further details in the record
priest thomas o.rielly
witness 1 w.kerwick
witness 2 elizabeth warren
about the record
BOOK NUMBER PAGE ENTRY NUMBER RECORD _IDENTIFIER IMAGE FILENAME
N/R 34 N/R DU-RC-MA-130815 ST MARYS -PRO -CATH_MF_1881-1904_MA_0221
hoping this might help
also i have thomas dunford born 1890 married mary ann duffy 1921 ,and all there children
in dublin all the murphy family are waiting for any result ,they were surprised when i found there grand father and mother john murphy born dublin 1850 and ann murphy born county wicklow 1851 in the 1901 census of 172 leeson park avenue dublin ,
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11-01-2014, 1:33 PM #8bobdunford6Guest
also john and ann murphy must have had a daughter who married a kelly to have a grand daughter mary kelly or ginney kelly which i believe to be the same person,
so if you look at the date of births of the sons of john and ann murphy
between peter murphy and john murphy there is 4 years,between john murphy birth and patrick murphy there is Seven years,between patrick murphy and michael murphy 4 years ,and between michael murphy and thomas murphy 3 years ,so as there family ,living in dublin said they always thought there was more children,we know looking at it there must have been a daughter ,
now i dont know how long the family lived in 172 leeson park avenue 1901 census but john murphy father was 51 ,ann murphy was 50,and patrick murphy was 19,the eldest son peter was not in this census he would have been 29 years old then
if we could find out where they all were baptized this would help us to where they lived,and we might find more children ,sorry if i am digging to fast,they think they have found john murphy marraige to anne moore in 1870 at st marys church ,pro cathedral,which would fit the dates of birth of there children first child peter murphy born 1872,now if we could find there baptism ,and death date of john and ann murphy
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18-01-2014, 6:03 PM #9bobdunford6Guest
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24-01-2014, 3:19 PM #10bobdunford6Guest
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