Marriage in Constantinople: where to search?

[geneius]

#25
Bob, I thought some of this would be easier as potentially it looked like UK census etc how wrong was I!

George
1851 HO107; Piece: 1647; Folio: 281; Page: 74;
1852 Died q3 Steyning v 2b p 130 ( George HAMELTON)

and Elizabeth had 8 children:

1) Henry
1816 Birth date 20 January per
108355 Merchant Navy Seamans ticket
1834 – 1846 at sea
Death ( FMP) 1876 – 1880 Constantinople Turkey
British nationals died overseas 1818-2005
V6 p 1940
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2) Edwin Nelson,
1819
born in New Shoreham,
1840 FMP Merchant Navy Record (+ Henry entry lower down page) Joined the ‘Monarch’ at Constantinople
), married to ??????
1871
Death in Constantinople (got death cert from GRO
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3) Mary, b. 1821 and .1832 in New Shoreham Are there 2 females with this name?
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4) George,
1825 Born New Shoreham,
1859
married to Mary Purser East London v1C p 54
1861 RG 9; Piece: 269; Folio: 123; Page: 17
72 Whitechapel Road Whitechapel
HAMILTON George 36 Bank Clerk Shoreham
HAMILTON Mary 28
HAMILTON George 1
PURSER Kitty 26
PURSER Ann 24
+ 2 servants
1871 RG10; Piece: 517; Folio: 55; Page: 18
72 Whitechapel Road Whitechapel
HAMILTON George 46 ClerkShoreham
HAMILTON Mary 36
HAMILTON George 11
RG10; Piece: 1562; Folio: 61; Page: 28;
Frederick H Hamilton
5
With Ann PURSER
1881 RG11; Piece: 1726; Folio: 57; Page: 18
1 Arlington Leyton
HAMILTON George 55 Retired Bank ClerkShoreham
HAMILTON Mary 49
HAMILTON George C 21 Medical Student
HAMILTON Fred H 15 “ “
FURRER Frederick W 16 nephew
FURRER Richard 15 nephew
1891
RG12; Piece: 279; Folio: 127; Page: 17
1901
RG13; Piece: 653; Folio: 80; Page: 15
1911 Downview Rd West Worthing
d. J January 1914 in Worthing,
Probate Date:2 Feb 1914
Death Date:7 Jan 1914
Death Place:Worthing, West Sussex, England
Registry:London, England to George C(larendon) HAMILTON medical Pratictioner
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5) Ann, b.1826 in New Shoreham,
1853 12 September St Peters Walworth Ann declared aged 30 to Walter Mancell 23 witnesses George HAMILTON & Eleanor Brown HAMILTON
1861 RG10; Piece: 560; Folio: 140; Page: 40;
Walter Mancill
41
Ann Mancill
48
Walter H Mancill
16
Celia A Mancill
14
Ada J Mancill
12
Arthur W Mancill
8
Alfred H Mancill
6
Mary E Mancill
4
1871
RG11; Piece: 1726; Folio: 43; Page: 46
1872 31 January Death Walter Mile End v 1c p 398
Probate March 1872 Solicitor of 9 Lawrence Pountney Hill Admin to widow Ann estate <£2k
d.1887 in West Ham ?? Just cannot see
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6) Elizabeth, b. 1828 in New Shorehm,
Elizabeth Hamilton
SPOUSE: John Gasston
MARRIAGE: 12 Feb 1849 - New Shoreham, Sussex, England
d. 1912 in ??????,
Struggling with this however I found a John Hamilton GASSTON b 1855 Steyning, he is on the 1911 census as John Charles Hamilton GASSTON b 1856 Shoreham living in Tyne & Wear a retired River Police
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7) Eleanor Brown, b.1830 in NewShoreham,
1841 with family
1851 HO107; Piece: 1590; Folio: 42; Page: 27
Chorlton Lake Blackheath Road Plumstead
Eleanor B HAMILTON house maid
1861 RG 9; Piece: 2908; Folio: 95; Page: 35;
Marlborough Terrace Broughton Salford Lancs
Eleanor Brown HAMILTON 30 House maid
1867 Marriage to William HALL Ulverston v 8a p 979
1871 RG10; Piece: 4238; Folio: 114; Page: 3;
Lindale
HALL William 39 Corn Miller Ampleforth Yorks
HALL Eleanor 40
HALL Mary 3
HALL William 2
1881 RG11; Piece: 4275; Folio: 125; Page: 20
Buck Cragg
HALL William 58 farmer / corn miller 100 Acres Employing 4 Men 1 Boy
Hall Charles 9 son
1891 RG12; Piece: 3474; Folio: 121; Page: 17;
Moss End Farm Allithwaite
HALL William 68 Farmer
HALL Eleanor 60
GASTON Elizabeth 14 Visitor South Shields, Northumberland,
1891 RG12; Piece: 3474; Folio: 118; Page: 12
Lindale House
HALL William 22 Miller / Grocer
HALL Mary 23 sister grocer
1891 Oct death William HALL aged 22 Ulverston v 8a p 545
1894 Mary HALL to George Brook PARKER at Whitechapel v 1c p 515
1901 RG13; Piece: 4000; Folio: 89; Page: 13
London Villa Allithwaite
HULL Eleanor widow
PENNINGTON Jane 30 single states daughter b Lindale dressmaker
1911 Lindale Grange Over Sands
HALL Eleanor 80 New Shoreham married 30 years 3 children 2 living
GASSTON Alice Elizabeth 17 servant Visitor South Shields, Northumberland
1912 Died 27 August Bradford v 9b p 184
Grant of Probate 25 Nov 1912 to Mary PARKER wife of George Brook PARKER est £94 17s 8d
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8) Charles, my GG GF, b.1833 in NewShoreham, d. 1868 in Alexandria Egypt, married to Consolata Caruana (m.1860, Constantinople) You have

[bobangel]

Hi Geneius,
let me answer for point 1:
for Henry, the eldest son, the overseas detah record point to Charles's youngest son, born 1866 in Costantinople, and died there at ten, in 1876 (GRO cert in my hand) (and info about baptism got from anglican church in Istanbul).
Henry Hamilton, son of George and Elizabeth, is like a ghost: just have some merchant navy ticket (for example:
https://s20.postimg.org/xkdxrzz31/585...LTON_HENRY.jpg), but no info about marriages, descendants, death.

For other info: mostly already known (see my family tree Hamilton under ancestry).

The problem is not descendants, but ancestors.
The oldest "absolute" (the one about whom there are no doubts at all) ancestor is George Hamilton, born 1782 in Leatherhead, son of Joseph and Eleanor Hamilton (as for George's baptism). Anyway, George had a daughter named Eleanor Brown Hamilton, and this fact leads me to think his mother was named Eleanor Brown.

This are the facts!!
But at the moment, searching back for George's (and mine) ancestors is making speculations, trying to prove them with other facts!!

[bobangel]

#31
Point 6
John Charles Hamilton Gasston is son to John Gasston (b.1826 in Sussex) and Elizabeth Hamilton.

[bobangel]

#31
Point 3:
Too many Marys.
The one who was sister to my gg gf Charles was born 1831. Looking into 1841 Census, for the one born 1832 there are unknown names; it's another family (nevertheless I'll give a look).

[geneius]

#33 That is what I thought, but researching John & Elizabeth isn't as easy as I thought it should be...partic as surname is not 'common'

[bobangel]

Never give up!!!

Found this site "https://www.levantineheritage.com" and with the great help from a member
of theirs I got copy of Marriage records in Constantinopole [a catholic church (Consolata) record with license from protestant church (Charles)], and also some related records.

[Lesley Robertson]

Great! Thanks for reporting back. It’s encouraging.

[retrogirl24]

Marriage found !!! my ancestors (gggf and gggm) get married in Constantinople, St.Peter and Paul Church in Galata, on the 2nd of january 1860. Started mailing all catholic parishes in Istanbul and got the "lucky" answer!!

The question is over!! The post is closed!!

Hello There. I am looking for a birth certificate of a child probably born in Turkey. The mother (my great grandmother) died there while living there for a few years. I see you were able to find a marriage from Constantinople. Do you have the address of the catholic parishes there so I can try contacting them? Did you write physical letters, or emails? Would they be listed in their records, even if they were British citizens? Would appreciate any advice you can offer!