Hi please can someone help me find the parents of
Winifred Jenkins born 1920 ish Pontypridd
Winifred married Harold William Hart in 1939 Pontypridd.
I have been told that Winifred's mothers name was Ada Winifred ? and from Bristol.Father ? Jenkins.
I think that the family would be living in the Pontypridd district.
I have been looking but am unable to see census information which is only up to 1911
I have found a birth for a Winifred Jenkins in Ponty saying mothers maiden name Winterburn so I looked for a marraige to a Jenkins and it said Alice Winterburn so I got a bit stuck then.
Thank you very much
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20-04-2013, 7:02 PM #1harleyallisonGuest
help looking for
Last edited by harleyallison; 20-04-2013 at 7:10 PM. Reason: add names and information
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20-04-2013, 7:33 PM #2harleyallisonGuest
Sorry I have got it wrong.I think that Winifreds name was Ada W Jenkins.Mothers maiden name Darch.
Last edited by harleyallison; 20-04-2013 at 7:44 PM. Reason: wrong info
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20-04-2013, 7:44 PM #3
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You will have to work back from known facts.
You know that Winifred married in 1939. You need to get that marriage certificate because it will give you her father's name. It may also give you her age.
Unless you have a specific birth date to work from starting looking for births is likely to be fruitless journey. This is in part because there are 3 Winifred Jenkins born about the right time in Pontypridd:
1919 - mother's name Cossey
1920 - mother's name Winterburn
1923 - mother's name Arberry
If your source about her mother's forenames is right then the right marriage might be: 1909 Merthry Tydfil - George Jenkins and Winifred Ada Wyatt. The only problem here is that I can't see a birth anywhere of a Winifred Jenkins whose mother's maiden name was Wyatt.
So as I said at the beginning, the first step should be her marriage certificate.
OBVIOUSLY YOUR CORRECTION CROSSED WITH MY POSTLast edited by Megan Roberts; 20-04-2013 at 7:45 PM. Reason: CORRECTION
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20-04-2013, 7:50 PM #4
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Ada W Jenkins born Pontypridd 1920
There is no marriage between a Mr Jenkins and Ms Darch between 1900-1920. However in 1922 in Pontypridd a Frederick J Jenkins married an Ada J Darch.
I still think that you should get the 1939 marriage certificate to confirm that Frederick was her father.
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20-04-2013, 7:50 PM #5malcolm99Guest
Do you have Winifred's marriage certificate to Harold Hart? If so, that will have Winifred's father's name which would make it easier to trace her parents' names.
Sorry Megan - I wandered off before posting and didn't see yours.Last edited by malcolm99; 20-04-2013 at 7:52 PM. Reason: apology
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20-04-2013, 8:07 PM #6harleyallisonGuest
I do not have any cert as yet.Only today I started searching.It is not my family,I am searching for an elderly neighbour.
Thank you
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20-04-2013, 8:47 PM #7terrysfamilyGuest
This is pure speculation
There is this marriage
Marriages Jun 1897 Bedminster 5c 1196
Ada Jane DARCH married Frederick WYATT
Now say Frederick WYATT dies (haven't looked for a death) or maybe they just split up.
Ada Jane takes up her maiden name of DARCH and starts a relationship with one Frederick J JENKINS in Pontypridd and they have a child in 1920
Births Dec 1920 Pontypridd 11a 1339
Ada W JENKINS mothers name DARCH
A couple of years later they decide to get married
Marriages Dec 1922 Pontypridd 11a 1136
Frederick J JENKINS married Ada J WYATT
also
Frederick J JENKINS married Ada J DARCH
This has been entered twice as the spouse's name is shown as WYATT or DARCH
Now as suggested by Megan, you need to get Ada and Harold's wedding certificate to find out if her father was Frederick.
Marriages Dec 1939 Pontypridd 11a 1586
Harold W HART married Ada W JENKINS
Terry
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21-04-2013, 10:47 AM #8terrysfamilyGuest
Further to the above.
All census refs crown copyright c/o TNA
Ada Jane Darch, Female.
Christening Date 03 Dec 1876, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father, Samuel Darch, Mother, Mary Hannah Darch
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C01683-5, GS Film number1749585
Groom, Frederick Wyatt, Single
Bride, Ada Jane Darch, Single
Marriage, 25 Apr 1897, Bedminster, St Francis, Ashton Gate, Somersetshire
Grooms/f, Francis Wyatt
Brides/f, Samuel John Darch
Digital Folder Number 4192298
1901 census
RG13/2360/~F148
Address: 25 Lower Ruby Street, Bedminster
Frederick WYATT, 23, Head, Farmers Labourer, b.Bristol
Ada, 24, Wife , b. Bristol
Ernest, 1, Son, b. Bristol
1911 census
RG14 PN32222 SN87
Address: 25 Thurston Road Pontypridd, Glamorganshire
Frederick WYATT, Head, 32, Colliery Labourer Above Ground, b. Bristol, Somersetshire
Ada Jane, Wife 34, b. Bristol, Gloucestershire
Says Married 14 years
Ernest Frederick, Son, 11, b. Bristol, Somersetshire
Charles, Son, 2, b. Pontypridd, Glamorgan
They also have 2 Borders
Frederick James HARDWELL, 19, b. b. Bristol, Somersetshire
George WYATT, 20, b. b. Bristol, Somersetshire
This would put Ada in the correct place to meet Mr JENKINS.
Terry
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21-04-2013, 3:22 PM #9harleyallisonGuest
Now you've put a spanner in the works lol.I will look for a death for F.Wyatt.
What about Lily Jenkins born 1914 to Darch and Jenkins.
Where did Wyatt and Darch's children go ?Last edited by harleyallison; 21-04-2013 at 3:36 PM. Reason: add to
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21-04-2013, 3:52 PM #10terrysfamilyGuest
The release of censuses have only reached 1911 so finding out where Liliy M came from or went to is a difficult one. Like I said in my first post this is pure speculation until you have the marriage cert for Ada and Harold.
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