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    A great grand uncle died in his early twenties in 1889 - he was a journeyman letterpress printer.

    What did that job entail?

    I can find the odd fleeting reference on Google but can't seem to find anything more specific.

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    Ok, there are various definitions of a journeyman, and there is a lovely thread explaining all on here somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. But a letterpress printer might be what is called a compositor these days. They took each letter individually and placed it into a form, tightened it up, printed the page and took it all to bits at the end. Have a look at this in the meantime:
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letterpress_printing

    Here we go, scroll down to Peter's post #7 I think for a proper explanation

    https://www.british-genealogy.com/for...ght=journeyman
    Last edited by Mutley; 08-04-2013 at 4:16 PM. Reason: more info

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    Letterpress printer: a printing machine minder who does ordinary printing as distinct from illustration work, work, such as lithography or process block printing.

    With all respect to Sue, I don't think he was a compositor.

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    Thank you both. That's very helpful.

    So. He was an apprentice.

    :ker-ching: This makes a whole lot of sense now. I have a few journeymen occupations throughout my family, butchers and blacksmiths mainly. I assumed it meant they moved around to find the work (as we indeed have mobile blacksmiths nowadays, but thinking about it an anvil would be darn heavy to hoist on a cart in 1850! ) In later census entries these people were recorded as 'master-whatever', so they had in fact qualified in their chosen trade.

    Ahhh.

    Thanks!

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    He was an apprentice.
    He had once been an apprentice (presumably).

    Now he was an journeyman - a qualified employee.

    If he ever set up his own business and started employing other people - and perhaps taking on apprentices - he would then be a master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Goodey View Post
    Letterpress printer: a printing machine minder who does ordinary printing as distinct from illustration work, work, such as lithography or process block printing.

    With all respect to Sue, I don't think he was a compositor.
    No worries Peter don't mind being put straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Goodey View Post
    He had once been an apprentice (presumably).

    Now he was an journeyman - a qualified employee.

    If he ever set up his own business and started employing other people - and perhaps taking on apprentices - he would then be a master.
    That's great. Thanks.

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    This is how skills were graded by the Army, WW1 period, with their civilian equivalent:

    "Classification of Artificers, Army Ordnance Corps.
    3rd Class Artificer - A man who can carry out a trade job which does not require very much skill (improver).
    2nd Class Artificer - A good average tradesman.
    1st Class Artificer - The man should be better than the average tradesman. He should be capable of instructing other men, and should be able to read a drawing and to take out quantities from it.

    Note - The corresponding grades in civil life would be:-
    3rd Class - An improver.
    2nd Class - A journeyman.
    1st Class - A leading hand or chargeman."

    Source: Proficiency Page, WW1 Service Records. (eg FUL page 12223)

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