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  1. #21
    malcolm99
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    Hello Lynne

    If I had a computer that wanted to work properly I might be able to help you faster. As it is things are a bit slow here but I have discovered that your St John's Church was still standing in 1892.

    I'll keep looking when and if that bearded man in a hot air balloon allows me to....

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm99 View Post
    As it’s handy....

    The rest of Calton Entry is on this 1857 map. In the top Left Hand corner running left to right are South St Mungo Street, Kent Street and then the rest of Calton Entry (by the Timber Yard).

    See: https://
    tinyurl.com/ax9ztqf
    I can't find a reference to Double Dykes but Gibson Street is on this same map. It's the next street down from Calton Entry and runs from Cross Gibson Street into Gallowgate.

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    'In 1793, when an Act of Parliament was obtained for building Hutchesontown Bridge, the Magistrates were empowered to sell or feu a stripe of ground in the Laigh Green, on each side of the continuation of the Salt-market-street, and also a stripe of the Calton Green, adjoining the road formerly known by the name of the Double Dykes road, which has since been increased in width from the Green, and made into a spacious street, and convenient approach to the City.'

    From 'The Rise and Progress of the City of Glasgow...' by James Cleland (published 1820; available on Google Books).

    Though I have been looking at some old maps that hasn't helped me identify where Double Dykes was or what it became.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynnelay View Post
    Is it possible for you to find Double Dykes in Glasgow. Hugh was there in 1812 to 1818. I have this info from the Post Office Directories.
    I can't see a reference to Double Dykes in the couple of directories I've checked. It would help if you could give a year & page reference? And who is Hugh?

    Later - it's OK, I've now found a reference to Hugh in Double dykes.
    Last edited by malcolm99; 09-02-2013 at 10:11 PM. Reason: found ref

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coromandel View Post
    'In 1793, when an Act of Parliament was obtained for building Hutchesontown Bridge, the Magistrates were empowered to sell or feu a stripe of ground in the Laigh Green, on each side of the continuation of the Salt-market-street, and also a stripe of the Calton Green, adjoining the road formerly known by the name of the Double Dykes road, which has since been increased in width from the Green, and made into a spacious street, and convenient approach to the City.'

    From 'The Rise and Progress of the City of Glasgow...' by James Cleland (published 1820; available on Google Books).

    Though I have been looking at some old maps that hasn't helped me identify where Double Dykes was or what it became.
    Sorry Coromandel I completely missed your posting. I had a feeling that it must be near the river and had been knocked down when London Street was built. Your description fits in with this.

    I haven't looked at this area very much but I've just seen that there's a Greendyke Street between St Andrew's Square and what I suppose is the Park. It needs looking at more closely.

    https://maps.nls.
    uk/townplans/view/?sid=74416307&mid=glasgow_1_centre#sid=74416307&mi d=glasgow_1_centre&zoom=4&lat=8381.72718&lon=10710 .72772&layers=BT

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    Hugh Fletcher b c 1780 on the Isle of Mull. He married Janet McGregor in 1801 in Glasgow in a gaelic speaking church. He was my great x4 grandfather. All called either Hugh or Alexander.
    Post Office directories of 1812 to 1818 have him being a wood turner of Double Dykes, before moving to Calton Entry. The 1818 one says Double dykes Calton. In 1824 he was at Calton Entry where he stayed until his death in 1865.
    In 1807 he was in Gibson St, which from the map link you sent me , using 1812 map
    https://maps.
    nls.uk/joins/view/?rsid=74400939&sid=74400943&mid=788&pdesc=SouthCen tre section#rsid=74400939&sid=74400943&mid=788&pdesc=S outh%20Centre%20section&zoom=4&lat=9501&lon=7527.5 &layers=BT
    top right is nearly in the country side. Calton Entry and gibson st both on it. I can't imagine Double dykes would be far away.
    Thanks for all your help
    lynne

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    Insomnia has hit. There is a road called Green Dyke that edges the "park" at the bottom of the 1812 map. Or at least it is called Green dyke on current maps. (A to Z) Not named on 1812 map- perhaps that was it because Coromandel's post said it was formerly known as DD and has been increased from the green.

  8. #28
    malcolm99
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    I suspect the closest we’re going to get To Double Dykes based on Coromandel’s #23 is that it’s somewhere to the south of Saltmarket as shown on this 1807 map:

    https://
    tinyurl.com/beopj3b

    The Wooden Bridge is Nicholson’s 1803 Hutchesontown Bridge and there’s an 1806 picture of it here:

    https://www.
    theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSE00518

    The extract from Cleland’s book that Coromandel found gives a graphic description of the area as it was around the time when High Fletcher was living there:

    https://
    tinyurl.com/atlb8az

  9. #29
    lynnelay
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    This photo shows St John's Church, demolished 1962. The photographer must have stood with his back to Calton Entry.

    Thanks for the link.
    https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSE01331

  10. #30
    malcolm99
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    That's a good find. That pram looks newish - it'd be fascinating to know if there was a baby in it - it wouldn't surprise me if there was!

    So the space to the left of this drawing is St John's Place and the building on the right would appear to be the infantry barracks>

    https://tinyurl.com/az3t2ve

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