Struggling at the beginning of my great grandmother tree
she was adelaide fitzsimmonds born 5th sept 1900 bethnal green
birth cert say james father as a chair maker and sarah nee williams as mother
of 50 chamborough street b/green
also married in 1921 to arthur preou with james as father a chair maker.
there is a census 1911 at 26 canroberts street which is really messed up with ink.
father is not there. sarah is head , there are other children crossed out. i'm not sure what its supposed to mean,
If james and sarah are her parents cannot find a marriage anywhere ,1911 census says married 14 years cannot find it. The family have spoke of an anthony fitzsimmons as her brother there is one in 1912 bethnal green with mother williams i assume this is him.will order his b/cert.
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Thread: fitzsimmonds of bethnal green
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02-05-2012, 10:51 AM #1lisagraceGuest
fitzsimmonds of bethnal green
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02-05-2012, 11:23 AM #2
1901 RG13/286/81/40
50, Chambord Street, Bethnal Green
James Fitzsimmons 48 Chair maker born bethnal Green
Sarah Wife 26 Bethnal Green
Richard son 2
Adelaide daughter 6 months 1901
census TNA copyright
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02-05-2012, 11:34 AM #3
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02-05-2012, 11:48 AM #4
That 1911 census is a mess isn't it?
Sarah actually has herself as Single at the top of the page when she started filling in the form, having 8 children with only four living.
So is Lillian Williams her dau from a first marriage or illegitimate? And where was she in 1901.
Adelaide has two brothers that we know for sure, Richard on the 1901 and George 7 on the 1911 plus a sister Louisa 3.
I am struggling to find James, prior to 1901. Noted he is also 22 years older than Sarah.
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02-05-2012, 12:02 PM #5lisagraceGuest
thankyou
doesnt come up by name in anc, neither does any marriage to james and sarah fitzsimmons(fitzsimmonds)
on the first census 1911 does anyone know why the children are crossed out (lillian and george)
thankyou so much for helping
x
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02-05-2012, 12:03 PM #6lisagraceGuest
i have it states mother as sarah fitzsimmonds formerly williams
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02-05-2012, 12:03 PM #7
This could be Lilian's birth however there are loads of others just not in bethnall Green.
Mar 1/4 1896
Lilian Williams Bethnal G vol 1c page 253
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02-05-2012, 12:11 PM #8
The 1911 census asked for the details for the children of the marriage so maybe Sarah crossed out Lilin because she was a williams. For george c1894 I don't know unless he was not of the marriage or maybe Sarah just made another mistake when trying to fill out the form?
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02-05-2012, 12:25 PM #9lisagraceGuest
thanks
this tree is going to be difficult not sure where i can go now .
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02-05-2012, 9:07 PM #10
Baptism of Richard
Richard William Fitzsimmons
Estimated birth date abt 1899
Baptism Date 8 Mar 1899
Saint Andrew Bethnal Green
Father James Fitzsimmons Cabinet maker
Mother Sarah Fitzsimmons
Address Warburton Square Warburton Road Hackney
Parish Bethnal Green St Andrew
Tower Hamlets
Parish Bethnal Green
This looks like one of the children who died
Baptism Margaret Fitzsimmonds
Baptism 11 Jan 1905 Birth date Dec 2(?) 1904
Father James Fitzsimmonds Chair maker
Mother Sarah Fitzsimmonds
Address 2 Smith's Buildings
Parish Bethnal Green St Thomas Tower Hamlets
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