Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 42
  1. #1
    Loves to help with queries
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    england
    Posts
    173

    Default fitzsimmonds of bethnal green

    Struggling at the beginning of my great grandmother tree

    she was adelaide fitzsimmonds born 5th sept 1900 bethnal green
    birth cert say james father as a chair maker and sarah nee williams as mother
    of 50 chamborough street b/green
    also married in 1921 to arthur preou with james as father a chair maker.

    there is a census 1911 at 26 canroberts street which is really messed up with ink.
    father is not there. sarah is head , there are other children crossed out. i'm not sure what its supposed to mean,
    If james and sarah are her parents cannot find a marriage anywhere ,1911 census says married 14 years cannot find it. The family have spoke of an anthony fitzsimmons as her brother there is one in 1912 bethnal green with mother williams i assume this is him.will order his b/cert.

  2. #2
    Super Moderator christanel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Wairarapa New Zealand
    Posts
    9,447

    Default

    1901 RG13/286/81/40
    50, Chambord Street, Bethnal Green
    James Fitzsimmons 48 Chair maker born bethnal Green
    Sarah Wife 26 Bethnal Green
    Richard son 2
    Adelaide daughter 6 months 1901

    census TNA copyright

  3. #3
    Super Moderator christanel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Wairarapa New Zealand
    Posts
    9,447

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lisagrace View Post
    If james and sarah are her parents cannot find a marriage anywhere ,1911 census says married 14 years cannot find it. The family have spoke of an anthony fitzsimmons as her brother there is one in 1912 bethnal green with mother williams i assume this is him.will order his b/cert.
    No I can't find a marriage in the area either.

    Why not get Adelaide's birth certificate?
    Births Dec 1/4 1900
    Adelaide Fitzsimmonds Bethnal G. vol1c page125

  4. #4
    Super Moderator christanel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Wairarapa New Zealand
    Posts
    9,447

    Default

    That 1911 census is a mess isn't it?
    Sarah actually has herself as Single at the top of the page when she started filling in the form, having 8 children with only four living.
    So is Lillian Williams her dau from a first marriage or illegitimate? And where was she in 1901.
    Adelaide has two brothers that we know for sure, Richard on the 1901 and George 7 on the 1911 plus a sister Louisa 3.

    I am struggling to find James, prior to 1901. Noted he is also 22 years older than Sarah.

  5. #5
    Loves to help with queries
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    england
    Posts
    173

    Default

    thankyou
    doesnt come up by name in anc, neither does any marriage to james and sarah fitzsimmons(fitzsimmonds)


    on the first census 1911 does anyone know why the children are crossed out (lillian and george)

    thankyou so much for helping
    x

  6. #6
    Loves to help with queries
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    england
    Posts
    173

    Default

    i have it states mother as sarah fitzsimmonds formerly williams

  7. #7
    Super Moderator christanel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Wairarapa New Zealand
    Posts
    9,447

    Default

    This could be Lilian's birth however there are loads of others just not in bethnall Green.
    Mar 1/4 1896
    Lilian Williams Bethnal G vol 1c page 253

  8. #8
    Super Moderator christanel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Wairarapa New Zealand
    Posts
    9,447

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lisagrace View Post
    thankyou
    on the first census 1911 does anyone know why the children are crossed out (lillian and george)
    thankyou so much for helping
    x
    The 1911 census asked for the details for the children of the marriage so maybe Sarah crossed out Lilin because she was a williams. For george c1894 I don't know unless he was not of the marriage or maybe Sarah just made another mistake when trying to fill out the form?

  9. #9
    Loves to help with queries
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    england
    Posts
    173

    Default

    thanks
    this tree is going to be difficult not sure where i can go now .

  10. #10
    Super Moderator christanel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Wairarapa New Zealand
    Posts
    9,447

    Default

    Baptism of Richard
    Richard William Fitzsimmons
    Estimated birth date abt 1899
    Baptism Date 8 Mar 1899
    Saint Andrew Bethnal Green
    Father James Fitzsimmons Cabinet maker
    Mother Sarah Fitzsimmons
    Address Warburton Square Warburton Road Hackney
    Parish Bethnal Green St Andrew
    Tower Hamlets
    Parish Bethnal Green
    This looks like one of the children who died
    Baptism Margaret Fitzsimmonds
    Baptism 11 Jan 1905 Birth date Dec 2(?) 1904
    Father James Fitzsimmonds Chair maker
    Mother Sarah Fitzsimmonds
    Address 2 Smith's Buildings
    Parish Bethnal Green St Thomas Tower Hamlets

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Select a file: