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    Information I have from a lady in Austrailia is: the John Hutton died in 1897 (have the death cert), in 1901 and 1911 census Sarah is living with a William Hutton and later marries a William Henry Wolley 1918 (have the cert) . Interesting thing is Kate Emily born 1900 on the 1901 census has father down as William Hutton so question is, William Henry Wolley and William Hutton the same person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coromandel View Post
    I can't see the full households to compare them in 1891 and 1901.
    1901: RG13 Piece 2426 fol. 8 p. 7

    22 Oxbody Lane, Gloucester

    William Hutton, head, mar, 33, Fish Hawker, born Wor...[sic]
    Sarah Hutton, wife, mar, 31, born Bridgenorth
    Florence, daughter, 14, born Worcester
    Harriet, daughter, 12, born Worcester
    Agnes, daughter, 10, born Worcester
    Edith, daughter, 6, born Worcester
    Lily, daughter, 5, born Worcester
    Kitty, daughter,1, born Worcester



    1891: RG12 Piece 2325 fol. 56 p.8

    36 Doldy, Worcester

    John, head, mar, 35, Hawker, born Halesowen
    Sarah Hutton, wife, mar, 27, born Bridgenorth
    Elizabeth, daughter, 9, born Worcester
    John, son, 7, born Bridgenorth
    Florrie, daughter, 4, born Worcester
    Harriet, daughter, 2, born Worcester
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    Thanks, malcolm99, for going to the trouble of transcribing those. It sounds like Maki2000 already had all that info (and more!) so I'm sorry to have wasted your valuable time. I really must learn to be patient and wait for the original poster to come back and answer questions. Off in search of some chocolate now that I can't find any more questions I can answer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki2000 View Post
    so question is, William Henry Wolley and William Hutton the same person.
    Looking at the 1881 census that Malcolm posted, particularly at the son William H HUTTON...

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm99 View Post
    1881 Census: RG11 Piece 2885 fol. 88 p. 32

    If it's of any help there is a William H Hutton, Head, married, 32, FRUITERER, born Halesowen, Worcs living in Hagley Street in Halesowen.
    Emma, wife, 33, shoe binder, born Leominster
    William H, son, 10 born Halesowen
    Catherine L(?), daughter, 8 born Halesowen
    Edith, daughter, 6 born Halesowen
    John E, son, 4, born,Halesowen
    Mary M, daughter, 1, born Halesowen
    Henry Wolley, Father-in-Law, 62, shoemaker, born Leominster
    Checking the 1871 census....

    1871: Piece: 3020; Folio: 85; Page: 29
    Halesowen
    Henry Woolley, head, 47, Leominster, Herefordshir
    Emma Woolley, dau, single, 24, Leominster, Herefordshire
    William H Woolley, grandson, 8 mo, Halesowen Worcestershire

    According to the West Midlands BMD, Emma WOOLLEY married William HUTTON in 1871 at Dudley, St Edmund.

    It appears that William Henry WOOLLEY goes by the HUTTON surname after 1871. In the 1891 census William is a soldier and on checking military records, William HUTTON born abt. 1871 in Halesowen attested to the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry in 1889 and was discharged in 1893. His attestation number was 3029.

    William HUTTON also served in WW1. He attested to the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry in 1914 (he mentions his previous attestation number of 3029). Interestingly, for the name and address of the next of kin, it has this...

    Friend Sarah Reynolds 33 Park St Bham
    Mother Emma Hutton ? Ct Halesowen
    Father dead

    So it appears that William Henry WHOLLEY (aka HUTTON) took up with Sarah HUTTON nee REYNOLDS sometime after her husband John HUTTON died.

    Hmm! If John HUTTON and William Henry HUTTON (senior) were brothers, then this means that Sarah was William Henry WHOLLEY/HUTTON's step-aunt (or aunt-in-law.)

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    Super sleuthing, olliecat!
    Well done.

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    Can anyone explain,in the 1911 census it shows William and Sarah being married for 20 years

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    What makes you believe William Henry (senior) and John Hutton were related?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki2000 View Post
    What makes you believe William Henry (senior) and John Hutton were related?
    In the 1861 census, we have this John HATTON...

    1861: Piece: 2064 Folio: 137 Page: 22
    Birmingham Street, Halesowen
    WAKEFIELD, Eliza, head, widow, 60, errand man nail maker, Halesowen Worcestershire
    HATTON, John, grandson, 6, Worcestershire
    WAKEFIELD, Williamm, grandson, 18, nail maker, Halesowen Worcestershire

    In 1871 John HUTTON is staying with his aunt Jane WAKEFIELD. So the question is, who are John's parents. Checking the 1841 census for his grandmother Eliza WAKEFIELD...

    1841: Piece: 908; Book: 6; Folio: 44; Page: 17
    Birm^m Street, Halesowen
    Elizh Wakefield 40
    Elizh Wakefield 20
    Jane Wakefield 15
    Kittey Wakefield 11
    Sarah Wakefield 9
    Lucy Grove 20
    George Grove 4

    Assuming that Kitty is short for Catherine then there is this marriage...

    groom's name: John Hutton
    bride's name: Catherine Wakefield
    marriage date: 24 Dec 1848
    marriage place: Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

    As well as this burial for a child...

    name: Betsey Hutton
    gender: Female
    baptism/christening date: 02 Apr 1856
    baptism/christening place: HALESOWEN, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
    death date: 13 Feb 1859
    father's name: John Hutton
    mother's name: Catherine

    Looking at this 1851 census, I suspect Caroline is actually Catherine and if this is true then John HUTTON and William Henry HUTTON are brothers.

    1851: Piece: 2034 Folio: 286 Page: 10
    Birmingham Street, Halesowen
    HUTTON, John, head, 24, green grocer, Birmingham Warwickshire
    HUTTON, Caroline, wife, 22, Halesowen Worcestershire
    HUTTON, William Hy, son, 1, Halesowen Worcestershire

    Thus is just a suspicion and needs further work but I have to nip out for while.

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    hey if you need any current information on Harriet Hutton message me. she's my great grandmother.

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