London Freedom of the City Admission Papers

[Kerrywood]

So now the already fictitious apprentice, Wilhout, has a father called Money Any. Poor old Thomas & Timothy Stevenson have been replaced by this bogus pair!

Priceless! What a great find.

I can't beat that, but I did find a candidate for admission in 1807 with the name Company STATIONERS.

[Happy Jackie]

I don't have an Ancestry membership at the moment but that is going to be on my Christmas wish list! Is it possible that my elusive 3 x grandfather (Samuel Williams) son (Samuel John Williams) who was a leather seller could be on this? It is so difficult finding anything on London.

[Coromandel]

I don't envy anyone trying to unravel the complex history of the Any family. Besides Wilhout and his father Money (see above), the following also appear in Ancestry's database:

Anthany Any, father's name Mandy
Millent Any, father's name Moury
William ??Any, father's(!) name Mary
William Any, father's name Murphey

Another complex family goes by the name Father. They must have been quite overrun with apprentices. The masters' names include not only Richard Father but also Rissaid Father, Risslid Father, Hissard Father, Lussaid or Lissaid Father, Lissie Father (just Lis for short), Lori Father and Sussan Father.

From the similarity in first names I think the Fathers may be related to the Hathers (Richard Hather, Rissd Hather, Prissd Hather, Said Hather, Vair Hather, Hub Hather)

The name that proved so tricky for the transcribers was really just . . . . his said father.

[Megsy-Magus]

My question is - the date on the document - my guy's date at the bottom of his indenture is 24 Oct 1707 - is this the date the apprenticeship began, or the date it was concluded and he became a Freeman?

[Pam Downes]

My question is - the date on the document - my guy's date at the bottom of his indenture is 24 Oct 1707 - is this the date the apprenticeship began, or the date it was concluded and he became a Freeman?

As always. being able to look at the document enables us to give a more accurate answer, but from the two examples I looked at the date at the bottom is the date the apprenticeship began.
The top of the document I looked at says about Joe Bloggs putting himself apprentice to John Smith to learn his art and to serve from the date thereof until the full end and term for eight years from thence next following. At the bottom of the page it says the equivalent of signed and witnessed, which is obviously the date the apprenticeship began.

[Megsy-Magus]

As always. being able to look at the document enables us to give a more accurate answer, but from the two examples I looked at the date at the bottom is the date the apprenticeship began.
The top of the document I looked at says about Joe Bloggs putting himself apprentice to John Smith to learn his art and to serve from the date thereof until the full end and term for eight years from thence next following. At the bottom of the page it says the equivalent of signed and witnessed, which is obviously the date the apprenticeship began.

Thank you, Pam - yes, I appreciate that an image would have helped, but I thought this an 'easy' question, if there is such a thing in genealogy!

My initial interpretation was that it was the date the Apprenticeship was entered into, but once I read the entire document, I was a tad confused.

I, too, believe it is the date of entering into the Apprenticehship.

Thank you,

Megan in Sydney