amy theaker 1867

[malcolm99]

Well done Christanel - but some bad news I'm afraid about poor old Amy’s dad. He seems to have gone bankrupt in 1847. See: https://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/20716/pages/1135

[christanel]

Thought i would go back to the 1861 census to see if William was with his wife but no he is still a widower so is Amy his dau or granddaughter?
1861 RG09 2453/73/14 copyright TNA
Trinity Street St Mary's
William Redgate 53 born Arnold Notts
George son 28 Notts
Albert T 28 Radford Notts
William Massey grandson 7 Notts
Emma Cooke servant 16 Arnold Notts
All the Redgate men are Musicians

If Abert and George are twins why didn't George have Radford Notts as birthplace the same as Albert

[t@nya]

I checked the birth indexes: no birth of an Amy Redgate in Nottingamshire that I can see.

[christanel]

1851 O107/2131/114/2 copyright TNA
Trinity Terrace
Wiiliam Redgate 43 professor of Music Arnold Notts
Esther wife 48 Arnold
Emily 22 dau Notts
George son 18 Prof of Music Notts
Albert 11 scholar son Notts
Richard Palmer Lodger single 28 builder Hucknell Notts
Ann Palmer single 39 proprietor of houses Hucknall Notts

So Albert and George not twins

[pennydog]

I checked the birth indexes: no birth of an Amy Redgate in Nottingamshire that I can see.

But there is one for Amy R Cooke Dec qtr 1866 Nottingham 7B 187 -could the R be Redgate? Emma Cooke is the family servant.

[malcolm99]

Christanel - you get a special prize if you can find Esther, Emily & Albert in 1841

[t@nya]

But there is one for Amy R Cooke Dec qtr 1866 Nottingham 7B 187 -could the R be Redgate? Emma Cooke is the family servant.

I found an Amelia Cooke in the 1871 census, born 1866 Nottinghamshire, daughter of William Cooke and Maria. I'm fairly certain that that is the Amy Cooke born in 1866.

I couldn't find her in the 1881 census.

[christanel]

I checked the birth indexes: no birth of an Amy Redgate in Nottingamshire that I can see.

No I can't find anything either t@nya and I also looked just for an Amy, any surname, in Nottingam and ther is this one in light of Esther's maiden name but why would Amy be reg under Taylor if her parent was a child of William and esther?
Births March 1/4 1868
Amy Taylor Nottingham vol7b page 212

Marriage of William and Esther? on familysearch
William Redgate
Bride's name Esther Taylor
Marriage date 19 Apr 1827
Marriage place Saint Nicholas, Nottingham

[t@nya]

It seems more likely that Amy is a granddaughter than a daughter. At my calculation, Esther would have been 63 at the time of the birth. Either that, or she was adopted.

[malcolm99]

1841 Census: HO107/871 book/folio 6/19 p. 30
Address: Castle Gate, Nottingham
Esther, Emily & Albert are there but William is missing. The surname the enumerator gave them is something like REDJAH.


I’ve a good candidate for the missing William in 1841. HO107/198 book/folio 12/41 p. 9 [bottom of LH page]
Address: Coldwell Street, Wirksworth, Derbyshire
William Redgate, age 30, music (something I can’t make out), not born in county.

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