George Price

[Lizzy9]

Rosie,

Hopefully this theory will turn out to be fact.

You admit yourself on one of your threads (there's so many I don't remember which one!) that George could have changed his name. Maybe, just maybe his birth surname was Parnham????????? Here's why I think that's a possibility.

You say his father's name was George and was some kind of dealer!!

This couple were married in Worksop, 2nd qrt 1866, 7b/93, George Parnham and Jane Attrick.

1861 Census

George Parnham/31/Chair Bottomer and Lodging House Keeper/Derbyshire
Jane Parnham/24/wife/Doncaster, Yorkshire
Alice Parnham/9/dau/Nottinghamshire
George Parnham/8/Lincolnshire
Richard Parnham/2/Worksop, Nott's
Thomas Parnham/1/Woksop, Nott's

Worksop, Nottinghamshire, RG9/2418/59/5 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

1871 Census

George Parnham/44/General Dealer/Derby, St Nicholas
Jane Parnham/38/General Dealer/Doncaster
Alice Parnham/19/General Dealer/Nottingham
George Parnham/17/General Dealer/Lincoln
Richard Parnham/13/Worksop
Thomas Pamham/11/Worksop
William Pamham/9/Worksop
Ellen Pamham/7/Worksop
Samuel Pamham/5/Worksop
John Pamham/3/Lincoln
Sarah Pamham/1/Lincoln

St Benedict, Lincoln, RG10/3371/67/11 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

1851 Census

Chas Russell/39/head/Pedlar/Surrey
Ann Russell/24/wife/Pedlar/Stockport, Cheshire
Sarah Parnham/14/sister/Pedlar/Derbyshire
Thos Knight/39/lodger/Pedlar/Nott's
Sarah Towe/21/lodger/Pedlar/Nott's
Wm Finch/58/lodger/Pedlar/Leicester
Jane Hatrick/18/lodger/Pedlar/Doncaster
Samuel Brown/45/pedlar/Nott's

Nottingham St Mary. HO107/2132/143/24 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

[Lizzy9]

1841 Census

Richard Pernhan/45/Chair Mender/Born out of county
Mary Pernhan/40/Born out of county
Ann Pernhan(above in 1851?)/15/Born out of county
George Pernhan/13/Born in County
Thomas Pernhan/10/Born in County
William Pernhan/9/Born in County
Alice Pernhan/7/Born in County
Jane Pernhan/7/Born in County
Sarah Pernhan(Above in 1851?)/4/Born in County

Derby All Saints. HO107/199/5/4 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

[Lizzy9]

Birth: Nottingham, 2nd qrt 1851, 15/637, Alice Hatterick.

[Lizzy9]

1841 census Samuel born Ireland, all others Yorkshire.

Samuel Hattrick/60/labourer
Elizabeth Hattrick/40
Margaret Hattrick/17
Ann Hattrick/11
Ellen Hattrick/9
Jane Hattrick/6
Selma Hattrick/4
Thomas Hattrick/1 6 Mo

Doncaster Borough. HO107/1340/22/6 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

[RosieM]

Rosie,

Hopefully this theory will turn out to be fact.

You admit yourself on one of your threads (there's so many I don't remember which one!) that George could have changed his name. Maybe, just maybe his birth surname was Parnham????????? Here's why I think that's a possibility.

You say his father's name was George and was some kind of dealer!!

This couple were married in Worksop, 2nd qrt 1866, 7b/93, George Parnham and Jane Attrick.

1861 Census

George Parnham/31/Chair Bottomer and Lodging House Keeper/Derbyshire
Jane Parnham/24/wife/Doncaster, Yorkshire
Alice Parnham/9/dau/Nottinghamshire
George Parnham/8/Lincolnshire
Richard Parnham/2/Worksop, Nott's
Thomas Parnham/1/Woksop, Nott's

Worksop, Nottinghamshire, RG9/2418/59/5 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

1871 Census

George Parnham/44/General Dealer/Derby, St Nicholas
Jane Parnham/38/General Dealer/Doncaster
Alice Parnham/19/General Dealer/Nottingham
George Parnham/17/General Dealer/Lincoln
Richard Parnham/13/Worksop
Thomas Pamham/11/Worksop
William Pamham/9/Worksop
Ellen Pamham/7/Worksop
Samuel Pamham/5/Worksop
John Pamham/3/Lincoln
Sarah Pamham/1/Lincoln

St Benedict, Lincoln, RG10/3371/67/11 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

1851 Census

Chas Russell/39/head/Pedlar/Surrey
Ann Russell/24/wife/Pedlar/Stockport, Cheshire
Sarah Parnham/14/sister/Pedlar/Derbyshire
Thos Knight/39/lodger/Pedlar/Nott's
Sarah Towe/21/lodger/Pedlar/Nott's
Wm Finch/58/lodger/Pedlar/Leicester
Jane Hatrick/18/lodger/Pedlar/Doncaster
Samuel Brown/45/pedlar/Nott's

Nottingham St Mary. HO107/2132/143/24 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

This theory was absolutely correct Lizzy! Thanks for your help. I found that my George was indeed the younger Mr Parnham ( probably born as a Price and stepson to Parnham senior but have yet to find a birth that proves this) I had got it the wrong way around: I thought he was Parnham acting as a Price. But now believe he was born Price and lived as a Parnham. Need to find his birth but none have proved to be him as yet. I did however find his death in norfolk from shotgun which I knew to be the case. It also stated that he assumed the name Parnham but was George Attrick Price (interesting newspaper piece about him and the violent abuse of his daughter which led to him committing suicide)So thanks once more for your help.
ps..if you have any idea how I can find his birth I would be most pleased to hear from you again! Rosie

[Lizzy9]

Hi Rosie,

I'm pleased to hear you are now getting somewhere with your Attrick/Parnham/Price ancestry.

As for a birth record for George I have searched under all three surnames and the only one which seems to fit is: George Price, Jan - Mar 1854, Lincoln, vol 7a, page 437. I'll take a look at census records to see he if he shows; if he does and with another family we can discount him.

[Lizzy9]

Are you up for a gamble Rosie? I've looked at census returns and cannot find a George Price to match the birth record I posted above, nor can I find death; so, it is possible he's your George. It's your call, but if it were my ancestry I'd take the gamble.

Whatever you decide, good luck. If you do decide to buy the cert let us know the outcome.

[RosieM]

Are you up for a gamble Rosie? I've looked at census returns and cannot find a George Price to match the birth record I posted above, nor can I find death; so, it is possible he's your George. It's your call, but if it were my ancestry I'd take the gamble.

Whatever you decide, good luck. If you do decide to buy the cert let us know the outcome.

Thanks once more Lizzy. I did phone the reg office about this one If I remember correctly (as to me too it was also the most obvious) and they said the mother's maiden name was not any variation of Hatrick! Could he have come as baggage with Parnham senior?? It dosent make much sense that way but these things have a funny way about them sometimes. Had Parnham senior been wed before do you think? It makes much more sense for him to be Jane Hatricks son tho. I have a long list of birth possibilities...and am working through them...but zilch so far.
This is one dog that just wont lie down!!! lol Regards Rosie

[Lizzy9]

Hi Rosie,

I have just found a newspaper article in the Ipswich Journal Friday, August 24, 1888; Issue 9145. Headline 'Terrible Tragedy at New Buckenham'

Basically it says a George Parnham had been sentenced to fourteebn days imprisonment for illtreating his dau Grace, age about 13 years. At a later time neighbours saw the little girl fleeing from her father's house, a police constable arrived at the scene and found the girl had sixteen marks on her back and loins. There's more but the outcome was George Parnham shot and killed himself.

[Lizzy9]

So, if the above George is your ancestor it appears his actual surname was indeed Parnham.

How about this birth: George Parnham, 3rd qrt 1852, Grantham, vol 7a page 406.