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Thread: illigitimate birth
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20-01-2010, 3:17 PM #11confusedeileenGuest
not seen it
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20-01-2010, 3:25 PM #12confusedeileenGuest
otherwise
hi in the same section requesting name and surname under Robert Cannon is Mary may southin underneath that is written,( otherwise mary may pullen in the same section she is recorded as illigitimate in the section on the certificate reserved for the fathers name. have also looked into the possibility that mary with thomas is,nt married ,but i believe her name to be francis still
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20-01-2010, 3:27 PM #13confusedeileenGuest
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20-01-2010, 3:30 PM #14confusedeileenGuest
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20-01-2010, 4:18 PM #15MutleyGuest
Ok for just a minute, let us move sideways and look at Percy Southin.
1876 - Birth registered in Petworth
1881 - Son of Thomas and Sarah Jane, born Northchapel. Siblings are Frederick age 11, Bertha age 8, Sarah Jane age 2 and Sarah Johnson (Mum's mum) lives with them.
1891 - Son of Thomas and Jane. Siblings are Fred, Herbert and Sarah age 11.
1901 - Son of Thomas and Jane, brother Herbert and May, granddaughter of Thomas and (Sarah) Jane is living with them.
1903 - Percy marries Fanny Sadler in Petworth in December qrt.
1911 - Percy and Fannie are still in Petworth with children Albert age 4 and Ella age 2. He is a house Painter.
In 1898 Bertha marries in Petworth to either Arthur Kingshott or Thomas Mann. I'll go on the hunt for Sarah Jane born 1879.
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20-01-2010, 4:38 PM #16MutleyGuest
It seems that Sarah Jane born 1879 died age 18 in 1897.
An older Sarah Jane born about 1843 died age 79 in 1922 the age is not quite right for grandma but then it depends who registered the death.
I think the point I am trying to make is that if May Southin is granddaughter to Thomas and Sarah Jane she should be the child of one of their children.
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20-01-2010, 5:11 PM #17MutleyGuest
I think I have found something but I don't have a clue what it means
Looking for Bertha I found her in 1891 at 12 Northchapel Street.
She is living with George and Sarah Chalwin (transcribed Chatwin on Ancesspit).
George Chalwin head, born 1808
Sarah Chalwin his wife, born 1820
George Southin Nephew born 1853
Percy Johnson Nephew born 1872
Bertha Southin Servant born 1872
RG12/831/94/3 (TNA crown copyright)
I then looked for a marriage for George and Sarah
In Midhurst, Sussex registered in Dec 1864 2b/646
George Chalwin
Thomas Pullen
Sarah Southin
Mary Vanns
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21-01-2010, 6:59 PM #18confusedeileenGuest
hi again, possible that frederick is the father to mary may , so that being the reason she was known as Southin , but for legal reasons her mothers name had to be mentioned as it would have been mary may,s legal name , but have to dig deeper for mum , BUT why did mum part with her , or did she die , ta for help
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21-01-2010, 7:17 PM #19confusedeileenGuest
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19-08-2019, 11:30 PM #20
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Just trolling through the web and found your queries about May May Pullen/Southin. I know it is some years ago but did you ever resolve the issue ? I do have a photograph of Bertha, who I always presumed was her mother, taken before she married Thomas Mann - its a studio portrait taken when she was nineteen years of age. Look forward to hearing from you, kind regards, Steven
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