she has disappeared...???

[happyhippy]

hubby's .....granmother ..nina caddell lee, leaves france (seine address)
has a baby boy ( my father in law) she call's mario on the 22nd march 1932..
no father,s name ...just her of independant means...at 14 comeragh road, fulham, london.....the baby gets adopted and change of name....but what of the mother...she falls of the earth...whare to start?? and what a story it could be....baby was adopted by a doctor and his wife and off to usa...he dont know much more.

[Keyboard86]

Hi only a possibility, but there is a marriage of a Nina C Lee in Sept qtr 1932 in Cardiff ref 11a 1045 to a Austin J E Forsyth.

Keyboard86

[happyhippy]

ah....plot thickens...thank you

[happyhippy]

being a novice at this....you know on a birth cert it has the separate coloums numbered 12345 ect...well on my father in laws...on the last # 10 (name entered after registration)
it has ...James Frederick ( on cetificate of naming) and the registrars siginture?...well what does all that mean....did they change the baby's name to james frederick? if they did someone else must have changed it again as that isent his name....talk about a plot..

[Mutley]

Not really sure what you mean.
There is a birth registration in the second quarter of 1932 for James F Lee in Fulham and the mother's maiden name is Lee. That sounds like the one you have and sounds like the name he was registered with.

Do you know if it was a legal adoption, his name could have been changed by his adoptive parents?

You can read about adoption records held by the GRO here

[sleste1]

A search for "Nina Cadell Lee" brings up ancestry details of a Nina born 1909 Bakewell, Derbys who died in 1938.

May not be relevant at all (in view of French connection) but it is an unusual name, so may be worth contacting the person who has entered the details.

[Red Dragon]

I don't know if this helps:
Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1953

Sect 13 Registration of name of child or alteration of name.

"Where, before the expiration of 12 months from the date of registration... the name by which it was registered is altered or, if it was registered without a name, a name is given to the child, the registrar... upon delivery to him at any time of a certificate in the prescribed form signed-
(a) if the name was altered or given in baptism, either by the person who performed the rite of baptism or by the person who has custody of the register... or
(b) if a name has not been given to the child in baptism, by the father, mother or guardian of the child or other person procuring the name of the child to be altered or given,

...shall, without any erasure of the original entry, forthwith enter in the register the name mentioned in the certificate..


All this basically means is that if you couldn't think of a name for the child when it was born (the register entry and certificate would simply record "male/female child" as the case may be) or presumably if you want to change it, you can get it entered up to 12 months later. It could also mean that a name was registered but the child was subsequently baptised with a different baptismal name, this could also be subsequently recorded (within 12 months) without changing the original entry.
Any certificate issued subsequently would also record in column 10 any name entered after registration.

[Red Dragon]

Other points to consider are:
*you can have a name on your birth certificate that can subsequently be changed within 12 months of original registration.
*When you get adopted you are issued with an adoption birth certificate at which point your forenames can be changed again, as will your surname normally.
*You can change your name at any time by deed poll (so long as it's not for any illegal purpose).
*Likewise you can call yourself by any name you choose.

If your father-in-law was adopted in this country, since 1975 he would have been able to apply for access to his original birth record. Those adopted before 12 November 1975 are required to see a nominated counsellor before they can be given access to their records.

[v.wells]

Births:

Nina Cadell Lee 1909 Bakewell(1839Onw) Derbyshire vol 7b p 899 1Q

Marriage: Nina C. Lee to Austin J. S. Forsyth 1932 Cardiff vol 11a p 1045 3Q

Also the above mentioned birth of James Lee.

Went to answer this thread yesterday but it came up as invalid thread - wierd!

Family stories are just that stories - some with not a grain of truth!

[happyhippy]

hey hey...thanks everyone...going to check this all out ..thanks again xx