Hiemy and Joseph Gold, London

[LynneOz]

Hi

I have a friend who is searching for her grandfather and uncle. She has ascertained that they came from a family of Jewish clothing merchants, probably from Poland/Ukraine (a town called Galich), who lived around Spitalfields, Mile End and Tower Hamlet in London. There appears to have been quite a community of Gold families engaged as tailors in that area.

Grandfather Hiemy Fold (later known as Harry) married Lilian Judge in 1905 and left immediately for Canada. Some time immediately prior to the outbreak of WWI the whole family (plus children) returned to London for a "family crisis" (presumably the death of Hiemy's mother, Rosa). The family were then caught in England and unable to return to Canada until after the war.

When travel was allowed, Lilian returned to Canada with the girls and Hiemy remained in London with his son Joseph (b abt 1909 in Saskatchewan, Canada). From commercial directories it is believed that Hiemy/Harry joined his father (Moses Aaron Gold) in the clothing business for some time.

Oral family history indicates that Harry/Hiemy Gold died about 1953 as the result of an accident. Nothing is known about Joseph.

Any clues about how my friend may pursue this further would be most helpful. We live in Australia and so must rely on the web or email searching.

Thanks

Lynne
Canberra Australia

[AnnB]

I've found a couple of sites which may be of use to you, the Jewish East End Celebration Society and the Jewish East End of London (found through Googling). I'm sure there must be more.

Best wishes
Ann

PS Welcome to BG Forums

[christanel]

Harry Gold, Merchant age 33
Lillian wife 34
Sadie 5
Gertrude 4
Joseph 3
Agusta (how written) 11 months

Departed Quebec arrived Liverpool 23 Oct 1913
Ship "Empress of Ireland."

Last permanent residence Canada
Future residence England.

Christina

[christanel]

Lilian Gold 41
Sadie 11
Gertrude 10
Rose 4 and a half
Edith 3 and a half.

Port of departure Liverpool
Port of Arrival Halifax Nova Scotia
Date of arrival 30 September 1919
Ship Carmania

They are all listed as Nationality English but stamped as Returning Canadians.
Religion C of E.

First went to Quebec Canada in 1905 and was there for 8 years.
Intended residence in Canada To married sister's husband. Then there is another word but I can't make it out.
Christina

[LynneOz]

Thanks Christina. The sources for the entrance and exit information would be great, if you have them noted.

Thanks again.

[christanel]

Lilian Gold 41
Sadie 11
Gertrude 10
Rose 4 and a half
Edith 3 and a half.

Port of departure Liverpool
Port of Arrival Halifax Nova Scotia
Date of arrival 30 September 1919
Ship Carmania

They are all listed as Nationality English but stamped as Returning Canadians.
Religion C of E.

First went to Quebec Canada in 1905 and was there for 8 years.
Intended residence in Canada To married sister's husband. Then there is another word but I can't make it out.
Christina

Source citation Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890 - 1960 The National Archives.

Passengers recorded on page 4 of 45. ticket contract number 52184, this includes children.
Masters name W N D Irvine
Steamship line Cunard
Number of Passengers on voyage 1363.

Christina

[christanel]

Harry Gold, Merchant age 33
Lillian wife 34
Sadie 5
Gertrude 4
Joseph 3
Agusta (how written) 11 months

Departed Quebec arrived Liverpool 23 Oct 1913
Ship "Empress of Ireland."

Last permanent residence Canada
Future residence England.

Christina

UK Incoming passenger Lists 1878-1960 The National Archives
Source citation BT26 Piece 554 Item 1.
Steamship Line - The Canadian Pacific Railway

FMP and Ancestry vary with the info they give.
Christina

[LynneOz]

Thanks Christina, I really appreciate the references.

Cheers

Lynne
Canberra Australia

[Wandalacey]

I have also been researching this family for a friend and I have I bit more information for you if you are still interested

Hi

I have a friend who is searching for her grandfather and uncle. She has ascertained that they came from a family of Jewish clothing merchants, probably from Poland/Ukraine (a town called Galich), who lived around Spitalfields, Mile End and Tower Hamlet in London. There appears to have been quite a community of Gold families engaged as tailors in that area.

Grandfather Hiemy Fold (later known as Harry) married Lilian Judge in 1905 and left immediately for Canada. Some time immediately prior to the outbreak of WWI the whole family (plus children) returned to London for a "family crisis" (presumably the death of Hiemy's mother, Rosa). The family were then caught in England and unable to return to Canada until after the war.

When travel was allowed, Lilian returned to Canada with the girls and Hiemy remained in London with his son Joseph (b abt 1909 in Saskatchewan, Canada). From commercial directories it is believed that Hiemy/Harry joined his father (Moses Aaron Gold) in the clothing business for some time.

Oral family history indicates that Harry/Hiemy Gold died about 1953 as the result of an accident. Nothing is known about Joseph.

Any clues about how my friend may pursue this further would be most helpful. We live in Australia and so must rely on the web or email searching.

Thanks

Lynne
Canberra Australia

[LynneOz]

Hello
Yes, I am still interested. Joseph appears to have married and had children according to the 1939 National Register, so I would appreciate any further confirming information.

Thanks

Lynne
Canberra Australia