The records from Guillaume le Batard throgh lesser nobility run like this, but how reliable is it?
Henry 1 (born ? died ?)
Constance Maude countess Maine (abt 1098- ?)
Richard 1 de Beaumont (born ? died ?)
Raoul VIII vicomte de Maine de Beaumont (born ? died ?)
Agnes de Beaumont (abt 1270- ?) wife of Louis de Brienne
Sir knight Henry earl of Buchan de Beaumont (abt 1285- 1339)
Elizabeth Beaumont (abt 1328-1400) wife of James de Audley
Isabell baroness Audley (1375-aft 1406) wife of John Touchet
Elizabeth Touchet (1406- ?) wife of sir John Baskerville
? Baskerville (1382- ?) wife of sir William de Clint Beckwith
Joan or Joanetta Beckwith (1428- ?)wife of William Gascoigne
Margaret Gascoigne (1454- ?) wife of William Newby
William Newby (1497- ?)
What is the most reliable source to correct omissions and errors made above?
Many thanks
esdel
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20-09-2009, 6:07 PM #1esdelGuest
Reliability of Royalty and Lordship records
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21-09-2009, 7:25 AM #2GeoffersGuestOriginally Posted by esdel
Originally Posted by esdel
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21-09-2009, 8:12 AM #3esdelGuest
Thanks Geoffers
Your claim seems at least plausible
so I shall give nat archives a try
Many thanks
Presumably, to get your hands on power and money you either
1. Were the heir and fought off challengers
2. Fought for it
3. Fabricated the data
So my question perhaps is not where the data is but is it true!
What % of what we read in these National Archive sources is made up by supporters of the would-be new regime or "inserted later" by or for those in power when history was written?
esdel
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21-09-2009, 12:16 PM #4GeoffersGuestOriginally Posted by esdel
Presumably, to get your hands on power and money you either
So my question perhaps is not where the data is but is it true!
If you have as a source some published genealogy from the 19th century, there is a very good chance that it is a load of squit. Similarly many internet claims are very questionable.
If you have carefully researched various estate and probate records, possibly records of the College of Arms, also Court records, Inquisitions, alienations, rolls, etc - then you may be onto something.
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21-09-2009, 1:28 PM #5
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21-09-2009, 7:06 PM #6GeoffersGuest
Jolly good, next stage is to make sure that you can read the handwriting of the period. TNA's guide on Palaeography is a good way to begin/brush up on things.
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22-09-2009, 1:52 AM #7esdelGuest
Thanks Geoffers!
Need to brush up my Latin too - shouldn't it be regorum (3rd declension or summat)
And there probably is one word for are known!
'Twas all off the top of my head and havena spoken Latin for 60 years.
In my dotage I am better at reading handwriting than doing it!
esdel
PS Doesn't anyone have some positive suggestions - IMPROVEMENTS in accuracy and content for my list:
Guillaume le Batard (Conqueberant)
Henry 1 (Beauclerk) king of England (born ? died ?)
Constance Maude countess Maine (abt 1098- ?)
Richard 1 de Beaumont (born ? died ?)
Raoul VIII vicomte de Maine de Beaumont (born ? died ?)
Agnes de Beaumont (abt 1270- ?) wife of Louis de Brienne
Sir knight Henry earl of Buchan de Beaumont (abt 1285- 1339)
Elizabeth Beaumont (abt 1328-1400) wife of James de Audley
Isabell baroness Audley (1375-aft 1406) wife of John Touchet
Elizabeth Touchet (1406- ?) wife of sir John Baskerville
? Baskerville (1382- ?) wife of sir William de Clint Beckwith
Joan or Joanetta Beckwith (1428- ?)wife of William Gascoigne
Margaret Gascoigne (1454- ?) wife of William Newby
William Newby (1497- ?)
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22-09-2009, 7:14 AM #8
everyone is probably too busy sorting out their own ancestry.
Sadly, our dear friend Ann (alias Ladkyis) passed away on Thursday, 26th. December, 2019.
Footprints on the sands of time
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22-09-2009, 7:28 AM #9esdelGuest
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22-09-2009, 10:18 AM #10esdelGuest
I am hopeful some kind person will tell me when Henry 1 Beauclerc king of Emgland was born. I am told he died December 1135
What is the best source for such data?
many thanks
esdel
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