and P***** Talbot born 1949 - I grew up with him ...his dad was a Policeman - dog handler - I will ask in the pubs about Talbot and Meadows family - Go on facebook and look for Garston Past and Present Merseyside - and as you can see - I am a Garstonite - as opposed to a Garstonian - Garstonians are from Under The Bridge area ( your research ) and Garstonites are up the village where all the shops are