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  1. #1
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    Hi,
    I'm researching the PIX family. I have traced a William PIX born in 1798 in Yaxley, Huntingdonshire who I believe could be the father of Joseph PIX b. 1813 in Lincoln, Grantham & William PIX (My gt gt Grandad) b.1827 in Peterborough. Info on other siblings would be much appreciated, thank you.

    William Pix b.1827 d.1890 m. Rebecca Joyner (b.1823-1895) they were married in 1855 in Hatfield, Herts, they lived in Hitchen.

    Children of William & Rebecca:
    Charles Pix b.1854 More info needed please
    William Pix b.1857 Hitchen d.1915 m. Fancis Beavis Greely in Islington 1881
    Frederick Joseph Pix b.1860 Hitchen (direct line) m. Rosa Sarah Chatwin d.1894 & Alice Amelia Jones.
    Emma Louise Pix b.1864 Hitchen
    Albert Pix b.1867 Hitchen d.1871
    Researching other possible children.

    Children of Frederick Joseph Pix & Rosa
    Rose Winnifred Pix b.1891 Stoke Newington, London m. Herbert A Arkley
    May Violet Pix b.1893 d.1894
    Frederick William Pix b.1893 (twins maybe??)

    Children of Frederick Joseph Pix & Alice
    Alice Emily R Pix b.1898 West Ham m.Percy Brotherton
    Ruby Pix b.1898 Clapton, London (I think this could actually be Alice Emily)
    Charles Joseph Pix b.1901 West Ham. Info on marraige needed please
    Gladys Amelia Pix b.1904 d.1906
    Albert Edward Pix b.1905 West Ham d.1987 Info on marraige needed please
    Sydney George Pix b.1908 West Ham d.1997 (direct line)
    William Pix c.1912 Info on marraige needed please

    Thank you for reading, any info would be greatly appreciated

    ATB
    Sue

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    In a few weeks, if I get the chance I'll try to have a look in one of the Cambridgeshire libraries re Yaxley. It actually comes under Peterborough but you never know. Can't promise when though but I'll try.

    Browneyes.

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    Hi Sue,

    I presume your William Pix b 1827 Peterborough is this fellow on IGI?

    William Pix christened 27 Jan 1828 Peterborough, Northants. Parents William Pix and Ann (Batch 1007297)

    If so, there are some siblings, all at Peterborough, same parents;

    William ch 24 Dec 1820 (presumably this Wm died, and yours was named after him)
    John ch 10 Mar 1824
    Elizabeth ch 22 Sep 1830
    Ann ch 26 Aug 1832

    ...and this is Joseph in Grantham?

    Joseph Pix christened 29 Jan 1813 Grantham, Lincolnshire. Parents William and Ann

    more siblings of Joseph's, all born Grantham, Wm and Ann Pix;

    Sarah ch 02 Oct 1811
    Eliza ch 02 Nov 1814
    Louisa ch 20 May 1817

    There is also this marriage;

    William Pix m Ann Short 16 Sep 1811 Grantham, Lincolnshire.

    It does look quite likely I think, but how certain are you that Joseph and William are brothers?

    One thing seems clear though, William Pix b 1798 Yaxley is unlikely to be the father of the Grantham children, he would've been all of 13 years of age when his first child was born!

    cheers birdlip

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    There are these female PIX marriages at Peterborough & Eye shown on the Northamptonshire Marriage Index 1837-60 which could be relevant to you:

    19 October 1853 at Eye, Samuel STIMSON, aged 33, widower, Labourer, father Thomas, Labourer & Eliza PIX, aged 38, spinster, Servant, father William, Cabinet Maker, both of the parish

    1 June 1856 at Peterborough St John, Alfred SMITH, Swan Place, bachelor, aged 31, Tailor, father Joseph, Tailor & Elizabeth PIX, Eastfield Road, spinster, aged 27, father William, Cabinet Maker, both of the parish

    20 January 1837 at Peterborough St John, James DAVIS, bachelor & Harriot PIX, spinster, both of the parish

    8 October 1847 at Peterborough St John, Edward THOMPSON, bachelor, full age, Labourer, father Cornelius, Labourer & Sarah Jane PIX, spinster, full age, father John, Labourer, both of the parish

    Also this one at Paston:

    1 September 1846 William PETTIT, widower, full age, Groom, father William, Groom & Louisa PIX, spinster, full age, father William, Cabinet Maker, both of the parish

    HTH

    Janet
    Last edited by janbooth; 31-01-2009 at 12:37 PM. Reason: Mis-spelling

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    Thank you all so much for your help.......

    this will keep me busy for a while......


    Thank you again

    ATB
    Sue

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    Thank you Browneyes, that is very kind of you

    Best wishes
    Sue

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdlip View Post
    Hi Sue,

    I presume your William Pix b 1827 Peterborough is this fellow on IGI?

    William Pix christened 27 Jan 1828 Peterborough, Northants. Parents William Pix and Ann (Batch 1007297)

    If so, there are some siblings, all at Peterborough, same parents;

    William ch 24 Dec 1820 (presumably this Wm died, and yours was named after him)
    John ch 10 Mar 1824
    Elizabeth ch 22 Sep 1830
    Ann ch 26 Aug 1832

    ...and this is Joseph in Grantham?

    Joseph Pix christened 29 Jan 1813 Grantham, Lincolnshire. Parents William and Ann

    more siblings of Joseph's, all born Grantham, Wm and Ann Pix;

    Sarah ch 02 Oct 1811
    Eliza ch 02 Nov 1814
    Louisa ch 20 May 1817

    There is also this marriage;

    William Pix m Ann Short 16 Sep 1811 Grantham, Lincolnshire.

    It does look quite likely I think, but how certain are you that Joseph and William are brothers?

    One thing seems clear though, William Pix b 1798 Yaxley is unlikely to be the father of the Grantham children, he would've been all of 13 years of age when his first child was born!

    cheers birdlip
    Hi Birdlip,
    Have had another good look through the evidence that I have to relate the two brothers Joseph & William, this is what I have:

    1841 census (casts some doubt regarding the ages listed)

    Joseph Pix, age 25 (b.1816?) living in: Northamtonshire, not of this parish, occ:Printer
    Jane Pix, age 20, Not of this parish
    William Pix, age 2 months, b. this parish

    No trace in the 1851census

    1861 census
    Joseph Pix age 48 b. Grantham, Lincoln living in: spalding Occ: Printer/Journeyman
    Jane Pix age 43 b.Cherry Orton, Hunts
    William Pix age 20 b.Peterborough Occ:Grocer clerk/traveller
    Mary Ann Pix age 18 b.Peterborough Occ:Pupil teacher

    1871 census
    Joseph Pix, age 57 b.Grantham, Lincoln living in: Oundle, St Peters Northamtionshire Occ:Printer
    Jane Pix, age 52 b.Overton, Hunts
    Mary Ann rice, age 29 (Daughter) b.Peterborough
    Fitz George, grandson b.Beeston, Northamtonshire Alice Jane, grandaughter b.Beeston, Northamtonshire


    1881 census
    Joseph Pix, age 68 b.Grantham, Lincoln living in: Bridge st, Hitchen, Herts Occ:Printer
    Jane Pix, age 63 Cherry Orton "
    Arthur Y Price, age 3 (G'son) b. Stratford Essex


    According to Josephs death cert, he died age 69 in 1882 at his brothers house, 54 Queen St, Hitchen, Herts. William was present at his death.

    Yes you are right regarding William Pix born in Yaxley 1798, I think it should have read 1794, however I too now have my doubts although the info was given to me from a trusted source- I should have checked it out!

    Another thing I can't work out is Josephs daughter Mary Ann married George James Rice, I have found them on the US 1880 Census, they apparently had 3 children James Joseph 1868, Fitz George 1869 & Alice Jane 1871. SO who on earth is Arthur Y Price??? listed on the 1881 census, threw me totally! Even if a misprint I can't understand why he would be in England. As far as I can work out Joseph didn't have any other children......Baffled.

    Thanks again for your help

    Best wishes
    Sue

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    That's fantastic Sue,

    great to have all those census returns, but I would say Josephs death in his brothers house would have to be the icing on the cake! OK, so Joseph is very definitely Williams brother.

    I did see this in 1851 (A...try)

    H0107, 1747/512 P21
    Barnfield? Peterborough St John, Northants

    Joseph TIX* head m 38 Printer and Bookbinder (Journeyman) Lincs Grantham
    Jane do wife m 32 Huntingdon Orton Waterville
    William do son 10 scholar Peterborough
    Mary Ann do dau 8 do do
    * Clearly PIX on the original

    If you think William Pix b Yaxley was b 1794 not 1798 then he becomes more of a possibility. Even better if the date you've been given is a christening date rather than a birth date, he could have been a year or two old, or more, at his christening.

    What you need, I think, is to see the record of that marriage in 1811. It should say if William was under age, he would have needed parental consent. If there is as much fabulous detail as in some of those Janet's given you, you'll be well on the way.

    cheers birdlip

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    Hi Sue,

    I think I've found Wm and Ann in 1841. If it IS them, we're in luck, because this enumerator didn't round the ages down, as they were instructed to; he gives the exact ages of the adults. So according to this, William was born abt 1792, and Ann abt 1793. You've also got an occupation.

    H0107, 817/2, 5/51 P12
    Johnsons Buildings, New Town, Peterborough, St John the Baptist, Northants

    William PIC 49 Cabinet M, J. N (Not born in County)
    Ann do 48 N
    John do 17 Y
    William do 13 Y
    Elizabeth do 11 Y
    Ann do 9 Y

    I'll have a look later and see if I can find them in 1851, but I think William may have died by then, this may be him, on freebmd;

    Jun 1845 PIX William Peterborough 15 271

    and this may be his wife; (but even if it is, she should still appear on census night)

    Dec 1851 PIX Ann Peterborough 15 255

    cheers birdlip

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    Hi again,

    Ann is shown as a widow in 1851, so that death ref I gave you for William in P'boro would have to be him I think, its the only one. This census gives her place of birth as Grantham and makes her dob abt 1790.

    H0107, 1747,433 P16
    New Town, Peterborough, St John the Baptist

    Ann PIE* head Wid 61 Midwife Lincolnshire Grantham
    Wm do son u 24 Upholsterer Journ. North'ire Peterboro
    Ann do dau u 18 Upholsteress do do
    Alfred Smith lodger u 26 Journ Tailor Essex Bumpstead
    John Si(ss?)on lodger u 23 Groom Linc Deeping
    * Clearly PIX on the original

    Elizabeth is down in London, working as a servant with a family in Islington. I don't know about John. There is a death ref on freebmd for a John Pix, Peterboro in 1843, I hope that's not him, he would only have been 19.

    cheers birdlip

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