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    Default They were in Wales in 1861!

    Sue, I found them in 1861, in Wales:
    Peter Bartle in the 1861 Wales Census
    Name: Peter Bartle
    Age: 33
    Estimated birth year: abt 1828
    Relation: Head
    Spouse's Name: Maria Bartle
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Fra British Subject
    Civil Parish or Township: Llanover
    Ecclesiastical parish: Blaenavon
    County/Island: Monmouthshire
    Country: Wales
    Registration district: Abergavenny
    Sub-registration district: Blaenavon
    ED, institution, or vessel: 7
    Household schedule number: 151
    Piece: 3996
    Folio: 14
    Page Number: 30
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Peter Bartle 33
    Maria Bartle 30
    Thomas Bartle 10
    Emma E Bartle 8
    Maria Bartle 1

    So they must have returned prior to 1860, as little Maria was born in Wales... here's the link:

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    ancestry.com/interactive/8768/MONRG9_3994_3997-0443?pid=13421945&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DZYm2333%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourc e%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1861wale s%26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26gsfn%3Dpeter%26gsfn_x%3DN P_NN%26gsln%3Dbartle%26gsln_x%3DNP_NN%26msbdy%3D18 28%26msbdy_x%3D1%26msbdp%3D5%26cp%3D0%26MSAV%3D1%2 6MSV%3D1%26uidh%3Dnz5%26pcat%3D35%26fh%3D0%26h%3D1 3421945%26recoff%3D5%25206%26ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&p ersonid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=ZYm2333&_phsta rt=successSource&usePUBJs=true
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    I have a copy of a family booklet written to celebrate a reunion for Thomas Bartle's descendants. According to the writer, Peter Bartle and wife and first two little ones went to the US as a visit, to gather information to take back to Blaenavon Ironworks, rather than to settle there. Thomas Bartle apparently recalled as a small child seeing his hat blow overboard into the Mississippi River, although he must have been quite small at the time. Shannon B.

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    Interesting - that means he didn't go only to Pennsylvania, as it's not on the Mississippi River... The Ohio River, which flows into the Mississippi River, begins in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, though... perhaps they vacationed to see the sights along both rivers... Pittsburgh was - and probably still is - a hub for steel working. Chances are that's where he went if he was going at the behest of iron manufacturers.

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    Not sure whether your interest is limited to Peter Bartle, but have you come across a family tree site called williamsfamilytree.co.uk which includes lots of Bartles and traces Peter's family several generations back into Cornwall? It also includes many other families and surnames so worth a look if you are interested in that line.

    Peter's daughter Julia Ann Bartle married twice, her second husband being James Thompson Middlebrook, and there is an online resource created by a NZ Middlebrook descendant, Lauren Bavin, who organised a family reunion, which included some of Julia's descendants. so if you fancy seeing a photo of Julia, try searching for Middlebrook Family Reunion (or just search her name). I can't recall whether it includes a photo of her Bartle family or not. Lauren's site is a lovely example of how to share family history online, lots of photos and very engaging.

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