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  1. #1
    SloopJB
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    Default Lloyd Lidgemoor Weobley Hereford

    Please does anyone have any connection or information relating to the family of George 37 and Mary 38 Lloyd of Lidgemoor Weobley, Hereford as recorded in the 1891 Census ?

    It would be great to hear from you.

    SloopJB.

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    IvorClucas
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    Do you know Mary's maiden name?

    If you do I might be able to find the marriage date for you unless you have it already of course.

    Ivor

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    SloopJB
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    Default Lloyd Marriage

    Ivor,

    Do you have a marriage index for Hereford ?

    It is a bit chicken and egg, the maiden name will be on the marriage certificate, but is rarely recorded on say a baptism record.

    I think I have it I will check and let you know my assumption.

    Only other way is to list all the George Lloyd's, I can imagine it would be a long list.

    Thanks, SloopJB.

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    janbooth
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    Default George LLOYD

    Birth registration of Edith LLOYD (Dec qtr 1879 at Weobley reg district vol 6a, page 525) will give your Mary's maiden name.

    George and Mary A (spelled LOYD) are in the 1881 census of Weobley with children James, Edith and George.

    This looks as if it could be George in the 1871 census of Kings Pyon:

    RG10/2708, folio 31, page 10
    Upper Lidgmoor

    Susan BENNETT Head Widow 52 Smockmaker? Kings Pyon Herefordshire
    William LLOYDE Son Unmar 23 Labourer Weobley do
    Mary do Daughter Unmar 19 Domestic unemployed Kings Pyon do
    George do Son Unmar 16 Labourer do do
    George do Grandson 1 Worcester

    And in the 1861 census of Kings Pyon:

    RG9/1826, folio 94, page 8
    Lidgemoore

    William BENNETT Head Mar 40 Ag Lab Rilsh montin? Montgomery
    Susan do Wife Mar 35 Kings Pyon Hereford
    George do Stepson 9 Scholar do do
    Mary LLOYDE Stepdaur 11 do do do

    1851 census of Lyonshall:
    HO107/2492, folio 358, page 10
    Village

    Thomas LLOYD Head Married 47 Shomaker Herefordshire Lyonshall
    Susan do Wife do 40 Wife do Kings Pion
    Aness do Daur 14 Scholar do Lyonshall
    Susan do do 5 do do do
    John do Son 2 At home do do

    There is a death registration for a Thomas LLOYD in the Dec qtr 1854 at Weobley reg district vol 6a, page 353 and one in the June qtr 1856 at Weobley vol 6a, page 309, either of whom could be George's father.

    HTH

    Janet

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    janbooth
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    Default LLOYD family

    There is a marriage registration on the GRO Index for a Susan LLOYD in the March qtr 1861 at Hereford reg district, vol 6a, page 638 and a corresponding entry for a William BENNETT. Also an extracted marriage on the IGI 6 October 1836 at Almeley, Herefordshire (very close to Kings Pyon) of a Thomas LLOYD and a Susan OVEN.

    Janet

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    SloopJB
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    Smile Lloyds of Lidgemoor

    Thanks everyone for your contributions.

    I had concluded that George Lloyd married Mary Powell in 1879.

    Mary's father was a Blacksmith William Powell if my assumption is correct.

    Edith is my greatgrandmother and so I guess I ought to buy her birth certificate. Is the mother's maiden name recorded on certificates at this date.

    I started family history when my daughter was born and it took me over 21 years to find out about the Lloyds of Hereford.

    My gran was illegitimate and never knew her mother only her name, she was born in Feb 1901.

    My only chance to find her mother and her family was to wait until the 1901 census was released and hope.

    I was lucky mother and baby ( my grandmother ) were still together on census night so she did have some time with her mother even if she could not remember it. Since approx. 2002 I have been able to trace my Lloyds.

    I would love to get in touch with any other Lloyds.

    I think Edith died not long after the birth, certainly before 1911.

    George was I think a woodman on the local estate.

    Mary Ann was supposedly born in All Saints Hereford. I have not found a baptism, although I suspect her parents were William and Ann Powell.

    I would be very happy to receive any further suggestions or advice re this family.

    My thanks to you all.

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    IvorClucas
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    SloopJB

    My marriage index shows a George LLoyd marrying a Mary Powell in Kings Pyon, Herefordshire on 14/6/1877. It is ONLY an index and there is no other info given. You would need to get the marriage certificate for that. There is no similar marriage in 1879.

    The index for Edith's birth shows as follows:

    16/11/1879 Edith LLOYD parents George and Mary Ann (nee POWELL) in Weobley district - George is a Woodman.

    There are a number of likely siblings for Edith, if this is the correct one - do you want these too?

    There is a Mary Powell birth on 2/10/1845 to William Powell and Ann (nee GRIFFITHS) in Allensmore - William was a Blacksmith. If this is the right Mary I will look for her siblings in my index.

    If you want me to look for more marriages for George Lloyd let me know - there are probably quite lot.

    Hope this helps


    Ivor

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    SloopJB
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    Smile Lloyds and Powells

    Ivor,

    Thanks for your reply.

    My mistake typo it should be 1877.

    George's ( 24 ) Father was also George Labourer, George was a woodman.
    Mary Powell's ( 25 ) father was a Blacksmith William Powell.
    Witnesses were Edwin and Lizzie Powell. Mary's siblings ?
    Mary was living Penllingham ???? ( not very clear ) ?

    Please can you look for siblings if only to eliminate them from enquiries.

    I believe Mary Ann Lloyd died in Lidgmoor 8 Nov 1891 aged 39.
    This may be due to Childbirth as there is a Sarah baptised 7 Nov 1891 parents George and Mary Ann Lloyd.

    George married again 6 Sept 1892 aged 39 to Eliza ( 31 ) Spinster her father was William Rogers, witnesses were James and Sarah Hooke.

    I believe that there were several children born later to George and Eliza.

    The entry for Edith's birth seems to be spot on.
    Does the index actually quote the maiden name Powell ?
    This would positively link Edith's mother as a Powell by birth.

    Please can you provide any details of siblings births you may have.
    Is the date 16 Nov. a birth date or a baptism date ? I assume you are working from a Baptism index ?

    Does anyone else have any information about the Lloyds or Powell's ?

    Thanks again, SloopJB.

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    janbooth
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    Default GEORGE LLOYD

    Sloop,

    In case you do not already have it, here are George & Elizabeth in the 1901 census of Kings Pyon:

    RG13/2487, folio 79, page 13
    Sedgemoor

    George LLOYD Head M 48 Woodman on Estate Hereford Kings Pyon
    Eliza do Wife M 40 do do
    Alfred do Son S 16 Gardener (Domestic) do Weobley
    Gilbert do Son S 13 do do
    Mary A do Daur S 11 do Kings Pyon
    Annie do Daur S 9 do do
    George do Son S 7 do do
    Ada do Daur S 4 do do

    Mary Ann was still alive in the 1891 census, so it looks as if the death you have for her later that year is the correct one.

    Could the place where Mary Anne was living prior to her marriage be Ballingham?? There is this William POWELL in the 1871 census of Ballingham who is a Blacksmith:

    RG10/2689, folio 47, page 9
    Cottages

    William POWELL Head Mar 53 Blacksmith Ballingham Herefordshire
    Anna do Wife Mar 53 Blacksmiths Wife Kings Capel do

    Unfortunately, I can't at the moment find William & Anna in the 1861 census to prove whether they have a daughter Mary Ann, but I can find them in the 1851 census of Harewood:

    HO107/1976, folio 571, page 9

    William POWELL Head Mar 33 Blacksmith Ballingham Herefordshire
    Anne do Wife Mar 33 Kings Caple do
    Jane do Daur 7 do do
    Edward do Son 4 do do
    Richd SPENCER Father Widower 69 Pauper (Ag Labourer) Withington Herefordshire

    HTH

    Janet

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    SloopJB
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    Smile Powell's and Lloyd's Herefordshire

    Janet,

    I must admit I had considered Ballingham. It is interesting you came to the same conclusion.

    I have also had a problem finding William in 1861.

    Maybe they moved outside the county.

    There is a Charles Powell and Anna and a Mary aged 9 in 1861, which seems to fit except for the father's name and occupation.

    Does anyone have a marriage index, it looks like the father's name in the 1851 census might give us Anna's maiden surname ?

    Any more thoughts ????

    Thanks SloopJB.

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