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    HiFly
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    Question 1841 Lookup - Orchestron/VALLIS

    I have a John Vallis b1799 in the 1851 Census (Source RG9/1310/26/17) - could I ask if SKS could lookup his household in 1841 please?

    With him should be his wife Elizabeth b~1794 and some of the following children
    Jane b1818
    Anne b1820
    Henry b1822
    Mary b1825
    Eliza b1827
    Arundele b1830
    Emma b1833
    Thomas b1835
    Elizabeth b1840

    It may also be that his mother Ann is with him as his father died 2 years prevously....but she could be in another abode close by.....

    TIA HiFly

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    Orcheston St George HO 107/1177/13, F6 p7
    Elston House
    John Vallis, 30, Ag Lab, y
    Ann do, 15, FS, y
    Eliza do, 10, , y
    Thomas do, 6, , y
    Arnold do, 10, , y
    ----------------------------------------------------
    F7 p8
    Elizabeth Valis, 1, , y
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Orcheston St George HO 107/1177/13, F6 p7
    Elston House
    Ann Vallis, 70, FS, y,
    In the household of
    John Mills, 25, Independent, y
    and a rather large collection of siblings with quite a few servants.


    Rummaged up:

    Possibly not the right Elizabeth
    HO 107/1167/12 F 13 p20
    Shrewton
    Elizabeth Vallis, 45, FS, y
    in a household with
    Sarah Maggs, 15, FS, y,
    Cathrina, 14, , y
    Mary Jane Taner, 25, Dress Maker, y

    Also, though I don't know where she might fit in:
    HO 107/1167/10 F3 p12
    Orcheston St Mary
    Elizabeth Vallis, 75, , y
    in a household with
    John Carter, 70, Ag Lab, y
    Grace do, 70, , y
    Martha do, 10, , y

    There is an Emma Vallese (transcribed as), actually could be Vallis, of the right age in Figheldean, with an Elizabeth Vallis, 47, and Elizabeth Vallis, 1.

    I hope that this serves to enlighten, rather than confuse. I could not find some of those childrens' names in Wilts.
    Last edited by GeoffD; 14-02-2007 at 7:35 AM.

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    Thanks for taking the trouble GeoffD, much appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffD
    Rummaged up:

    Possibly not the right Elizabeth
    HO 107/1167/12 F 13 p20
    Shrewton
    Elizabeth Vallis, 45, FS, y
    in a household with
    Sarah Maggs, 15, FS, y,
    Cathrina, 14, , y
    Mary Jane Taner, 25, Dress Maker, y
    Just so I understand right GeoffD - Does the above imply that the above residents surnames are also Vallis? Or just Cathrina??

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffD
    There is an Emma Vallese (transcribed as), actually could be Vallis, of the right age in Figheldean, with an Elizabeth Vallis, 47, and Elizabeth Vallis, 1.

    I hope that this serves to enlighten, rather than confuse. I could not find some of those childrens' names in Wilts.
    This is definitely John's wife with children Emma and Elizabeth - any chance of having the details please ? - as I suspect that she was visiting parents or relations in Figheldean, where she was born.

    HiFly

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    Just so I understand right GeoffD - Does the above imply that the above residents surnames are also Vallis? Or just Cathrina??
    No, Cathrina has no surname attached. The others are Sarah MAGGS and Mary Jane TANER.

    If the 1 year-old Elizabeth with the Figheldean lot is the daughter, then there is the problem of the other 1 year-old Elizabeth with John. But no matter, hang on a bit and I will get the Figheldean mob for you.

    HO 107/1165/8 F8 p9
    Figheldean
    Henry Batchler, 75, Keeper, y
    Ann do, 80, , y
    Elizabeth Vallis (or Valliss or Vallise), 47, something crossed out, y
    Emma do, 7, , y
    Elizabeth do, 1, , y


    And no need for thanks. I don't mind doing lookups in Wiltshire because I might just stumble across some of my elusive Wilts. bunch in the process.
    Last edited by GeoffD; 15-02-2007 at 11:23 PM. Reason: More info

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    GeoffD
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    1851
    HO 107/1845 F25 p4

    Orcheston St George
    John Vallis, Head, Married, 51, Indoor Servant Domestic, Orcheston St George
    Elizabeth do, Wife, Married, 56, , Figheldean Wilts
    Mary do, Daughter, Unmarried, 25, Domestic Servant, Orcheston St George
    Eliza do, Daughter, Unmarried, 23, Domestic Servant, Orcheston St George
    Elizabeth Vallis, Daughter, , 10, Scholar, Orcheston St George
    Ann Vallis, Mother, Widow, 81, Pauper, Orcheston St George
    Elizabeth Vallis, Sister, Unmarried, 48, Gentleman's House Keeper, Orcheston St George
    John C Lade, Grandson, , 2, , Orcheston St George

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    Thank GeoffD...complete!

    BTW who are your elusive bunch in Wilts? ..just so while I perambulate around the county I can keep a lookout for them!

    HiFly

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    There is this one chap, my great-grandfather's brother, named William Henry TUCKER, b. Bishopstrowe, 1829. I lose him after 1851, by which time he was a footman at Langford Lodge, Burrington, Somerset. It is possible that he emigrated to Australia, either before or after his brother (1871) who had wandered off to be a porter at Clifton Union Workhouse, Gloucestershire, before emigrating.

    Their mother is also proving difficult - my great grandfather rather reinvented himself in the Colonies. On his death certificate, her name is recorded as Hester Jacques HERMAND, but it is probable that the 'Jacques' is an invention, and the 'Hermand' is more likely to be HARMON, HARMAN or HERMAN. Born 1799, Warminster, died 1865, Bishopstrow. I have her in all census, but nothing of her antecedents. There are a lot of HARMAN names around Wilts.
    Last edited by GeoffD; 17-02-2007 at 3:31 AM.

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    Default Hester Tucker/Harman

    Geoff have you thought that was her maiden name

    marriage of James Tucker - Hester Harman 28.10.1822 St Denys, Warminster.

    I found this on the IGI so will need checking. Too good to be a fib.

    Irene

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    Default Hester Harmon

    Hester Harmon c 16.12.1798 Deverill Longbridge, mother Elizabeth.

    Its possible the Jaques comes in some where he may have been giving clues.

    Irene

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    Quote Originally Posted by idredge
    Geoff have you thought that was her maiden name

    marriage of James Tucker - Hester Harman 28.10.1822 St Denys, Warminster.

    I found this on the IGI so will need checking. Too good to be a fib.

    Irene
    That was a slip up on my post - I meant to say ... "maiden name is recorded as ..."

    I had 29 Oct 1822 in Warminster, but not the St Denys bit. Thanks for looking. I did not have solid info on birth/christening. Maybe Hester's mum was Elizabeth JACQUES?

    I have found a few good fibs on IGI - mostly concerning the birthplace of my great-gandfather HALL. And otherwise, I find that I often have more information on ancestors than IGI does, even when the info is correct.

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