Census help for Benbow, Westminster

[ChristineR]

The William born in Hertfordshire is not the one I'm after - too old, and not born in Herefordshire

oops, I keep getting them mixed up. There isn't a town mentioned on that particular entry either, and I did not calculate the age.

Christine

[Lenore]

Sorry
I cannot see any Westminster born
William or Prestwood Benbows

Good luck
Mutley

Hi Mutley,

Thank you very much for all that fantastic information. I've printed it off to have a good hard look at it and talk to my cousin. We're doing this together and she's the one with the up-to-date chart - I'll obviously have to get one off her, because a lot of those names and places you have mentioned are familiar, but I'm not sure off the top of my head where they fit in.

The two children I mentioned, William and Prestwood, were registered in Westminster in 1856 and 1858 respectively, but apparently their mother died not long after, before the 1861 Census, and they were probably farmed out. Possibly Prestwood Charles died - I havent picked him up in the 1881 or 1901 Census, does not look to have married, no death registered.

On the other hand, there is a William J Benbow in the 1901 Census, Butler, born London, residing St James Westminster, though not in the 1888 that I can see. Possibly need to spend more time on that.

Sorry I was slow in responding - had to duck out to a Christmas luncheon!

Best wishes,

Lenore

[Lenore]

Still trying to unravel the William Benbow born in Winslow circa 1817 or whenever.

His father Thomas died in Bromyard, Herefordshire in 1835, leaving his widow Mary Benbow with 4 children. We think she kept the eldest and youngest with her (William and Jane), and the middle two went to an uncle who took them to America.

Is there any hint of where Mary Benbow (aged 41), William (about 24) and Jane (aged 9) were in the 1841 Census? They were all born in Herefordshire, but it looks like something or someone took them to Westminster.

With thanks,

Lenore

[Mutley]

This must be her in 1851 it is transcibed as Benbow but sure looks like Barbour, I think it is the one I gave you in an earlier post for William, but like Christine I am getting muddled, forgive me if you get things twice.
Mary Benbow
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Grendon, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Westminster St Margaret
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address: 1 Catherine Place
Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Margaret
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Household Members: Name Age
Jane Benbow 22 Laundry Maid
Mary Benbow 51 Laundress

William Benbow 34 This is the one I can't read, something Miner something
A Jane Shedding seems to be living in the same house, she is Married, 28 yrs old and a soldier's wife, but I cannot read the relationship.
Class: HO107; Piece: 1480; Folio: 498; Page: 50

[Mutley]

This looks promising as Jane was not yet born.
Name: Mary Benbow
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Winslow
Hundred: Cottesloe
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: Something like Sheeps Street

Source information: HO107/51/17
Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Folio: 10 Page: 14 Line number: 2 GSU Number: 241215

Household: family members
Frederick Benbow abt 1832 Buckinghamshire, England Winslow
John Benbow abt 1806 Buckinghamshire, England Winslow
John Benbow abt 1826 Buckinghamshire, England Winslow
Mary Benbow abt 1801 Winslow Buckinghamshire
William Benbow abt 1837 Buckinghamshire, England Winslow

Regards Mutley

[Mutley]

It is surprising how many Mary Benbows were born Herts but this is the nearest I can see for a death if she died in Westminster. Unfortunately it does not give her age or birth.

Name: Mary Benbow
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Westminster St Margaret
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 206

Regards, Mutley
Oh dear, just spotted here is another.......

Name: Mary Benbow
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
DISTRICT: West London
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 41

[Lenore]

This must be her in 1851
Mary Benbow
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Grendon, Herefordshire, England

Street address: 1 Catherine Place
Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Margaret
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Household Members: Name Age
Jane Benbow 22 Laundry Maid
Mary Benbow 51 Laundress

William Benbow 34 This is the one I can't read, something Miner something
A Jane Shedding seems to be living in the same house, she is Married, 28 yrs old and a soldier's wife, but I cannot read the relationship.
Class: HO107; Piece: 1480; Folio: 498; Page: 50

Hi Mutley,

Yes, this is the right Mary Benbow. The Benbows had been in Grendon Bishop, Herefordshire, for a few generations - and Winslow a suburb of Grendon, or the other way round.

My cousins Dorothy has seen this census page so I must ask her what occupation she thought William Benbow had - she didn't mention Jane Shedding to me - that seems worth following up just in case she is a relation.

Thanks once again, you are very kind.

Best wishes,

Lenore

[Lenore]

This looks promising as Jane was not yet born.
Name: Mary Benbow
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Winslow
Hundred: Cottesloe
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Hi Mutley,

How weird is this? I had no idea that there was a Winslow in Buckinghamshire - does the 1851 Census not say that William and Jane were born in Winslow Herefordshire? Jane was born in 1841, she must have been born about 1829 and William about 1817 - we never did find any baptismal records in Winslow/Grendon, HER.

If the three of them - Mary, son William and dau Jane were living together in 1851, you'd think we'd find them somewhere nearby each other in 1841. It's a pain.

Thank you for your efforts. Would it make any difference if you tried the spelling Bembow(e)?

Best wishes,

Lenore

[Lenore]

It is surprising how many Mary Benbows were born Herts but this is the nearest I can see for a death if she died in Westminster. Unfortunately it does not give her age or birth.

Name: Mary Benbow
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Westminster St Margaret
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 206

Regards, Mutley
Oh dear, just spotted here is another.......

Name: Mary Benbow
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
DISTRICT: West London
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 41

Hi Mutley,

We think her death is probably the one in Westminster, because we have other records of them in Westminster - Jane Benbow married in Westminster in the March quarter of 1857 and there's a handful of other BDMs that suggest they hung around Westminster - but not yet confirmed. We're waiting on a death certificate now -but it it is not the 1857 death for Mary, maybe it will be the 1860 one that you found - it is a real nuisance not having the age available.

Thank you yet again, I really appreciate your efforts on my behalf.

Best wishes,

Lenore

[Mutley]

Hi Lenore,
I can see that you are online so I will just post this quickly,
Don't forget it is where they said they were born, together with their names and ages they often got it wrong.
I do not know the area, if there has been boundary or county changes, someone else might....
However, I will find them again tomorrow and email you the originals so you can see for yourself.
Best wishes,
Mutley.