Yes, of the famed football families; Jackie Milburn, nephews Bobby & Jackie Charlton.
I need some help or advice. I am missing the crucial link in order to research for their ancestors. Until the 1911 census becomes available.
Does anyone know if there is a family tree of the Milburns in question?
"Jackie Milburn" born John Edward Thompson Milburn, 11 May 1924 - 9 Oct 1988, born and died in Ashington, Northumberland. Marrried to Laura. Son Jackie Jnr, who was married to Moffat but she remarried.
Father: Alexander "Alec" Milburn, married 1923 (Morpeth)
Mother: Annie Thompson
Alec's brother: "Tanner" Milburn (John Thomas? This needs to be varified)
Tanner's wife: Charlton (Elizabeth Ann? This needs to be varified)
4 sons (all footballers) and 3 daughters (one is the mother of Bobby & Jackie Charlton)
"Jack" John Milburn, 18 Mar 1908 Ashington - Jul/Sep 1979 Leeds
"George" George William Milburn, 24 Jun 1910 Ashington - 24 Jun 1980 Chesterfield
"Jim" James Milburn, 21 Sep 1919 Ashington - Jan 1985 Wakefield, Yorkshire
"Stan" Stanley Milburn, 22 Oct 1926 Ashington -
"Cissie" Elizabeth Ellen Milburn, 11 Nov 1912 Ashington - Jan/Mar 1996; married 1934 (Morpeth) "Bob" Robert Charlton. 4 sons, Alan, Bobby, Jackie and Tom. Have the birthdates of all except Tom.
Jacky Charlton married Patricia (Children?)
Bobby Charlton married Norma Ball in 1961
Daughters Suzanne and Andrea
There is also reference to the famous Ashington footballer "Warhorse" Milburn, does anyone know who he was and what his first name was? He had 13 children. The information on the internet leads me to believe that he was Alec & Tanner's father.
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14-11-2006, 1:45 PM #1bradGuest
Milburn/Charlton
Last edited by brad; 14-11-2006 at 9:22 PM. Reason: Additional info
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14-11-2006, 2:45 PM #2Jo SimpsonsGuest
There is a family tree on Ancestry for John Edward Thompson Milburn, if that helps?
Wikipedia have a biography on him too.
Jo
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14-11-2006, 8:29 PM #3BevGibbsGuest
I looked at this as apparently my mother - a Milburn - is related. But I did make contact with a lady who is the first cousin of Jack and Bobby, Cissie being her Aunt and we conculded my link looked very much like typical (unreliable) family lore.
I did get both Bobby and Cissie's birth certificates. Cant lay my hands on Cissie's but Bobby's as follows:
11 Oct 1937 at 17 Laburnum Terrace, Ashington UD
Robert Charlton, boy
Mother: Elizabeth Ellen Charlton formerly Milburn
Father: Robert Charlton, Colliery Coal Cutter
Registered by mother on 17 November 1937
I understood Warhorse was the father of John Edward Thompson (ie Tanner) and Alec but I am probably hopelessly wrong as I was working from public data.
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14-11-2006, 10:08 PM #4bradGuest
Thank you Jo, that is where I started.
Also found a lot of details (heights, weight, dates of death etc.) on their football team's homesites.
Ashington Colliery Welfare Club, Leeds United, Chesterfield, Norwich City, Bradford City
The comments from Tom Charlton gave a good insight to the type of people that they were.
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21-07-2009, 5:29 PM #5jeff stokerGuest
Charlton & Milburn Families
Hi I have alot on the Charlton & Milburn Families
I Can send you info on them, Can you send me what you have on the families
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21-07-2009, 5:41 PM #6
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Hi Jeff
Welcome to the forums!
Not sure you'll get a reply as the previous post is dated 14/11/06. Also you might like to alter your email address - or ask one of the moderators to do it, quick! to avoid being deluged with spam
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28-06-2010, 2:00 PM #7annrodgersGuest
I was wondering if you could hook me up with the relative of the Milburn's that you spoke to, who set you straight. I am in fact related to Milburn. My great grandmother was Anne Milburn who married John McQuillan in Ireland, 1905 apparently Jackie was her cousin apparently everyone in the family in Ireland knew, I live in Canada so just learning all the scoop. I have no idea where in England she was born or the exact date. I have found a birth but well it is guess work. annie
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06-12-2010, 11:56 PM #8moggiesGuest
Ann you must be related to the same branch of Milburn as me,I will ring and ask my aunt age 90 in Leeds,she knows more of the family tree than me,her Mother was Esther Jane Milburn born in 1800`s Rosedale abby ,but I know my mam used to say they were from a big family,
The Milburn family were Border Reivers stock www.
reiverhistory.co.uk I believe from Tynedale and North Tynedale,who married with the Charltons,we are talking of ancient Northumbrian families here from Anglo Saxon stock ,and even earliar from Roman Legions stationed on Hadrians wall,from DNA tests done they were Ancient Sarmatians from the Russian Steppes,some 5000 were posted to guard Hadrians wall and the Antonine wall on the English /Scottish border,in those days the English border went right up to Edinburgh.
Before the Romans invaded ,we were The Brigantes Tribe ruled by Queen Cartimandua in that area.
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31-07-2011, 6:05 PM #9Vince GledhillGuest
Milburns
In 1987 I ghost wrote Cissie Charlton's autobiography for her. I had known her since childhood and we were good friends. In the process of writing the book we met often and talked for a long time about her life and family, so if I can help any of you Milburn-Charlton information seekers, I will be happy to help.
Vince Gledhill
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04-10-2010, 9:55 AM #10dave commonGuest
ive been doing a lot of research into my family tree resently. i always knew that the great wor jackie milburn was my great uncle but ive started creating a family tree on genebase i dont know if it would be possible for you too access it but if you would like more info on what info i do have email me at [email protected]
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