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    Default Parish look up for James Bolwell, St Edmunds, Salisbury, please

    I'm wondering if some kind person can help me find the birth or christening details of my g-g grandfather, James Bolwell, born Salisbury c1812. Names of other siblings too would be fantastic.

    I'm assuming it would be St Edmunds and not one of the other churches. He married Mary Moxam in 1831 at St Edmunds, I have the details of (I think) all their children, christened at St Edmunds and I've found him on all the relevant censuses and have his death certificate, he and Mary were buried in the London Rd cemetry. I just would love to get back another generation, and I've got stuck!

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    Havn't found any info directly birdlip, but this link appears to have a load of Moxam's in Fovant (about 8 miles sw of Salisbury).
    https://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.b...nt/mar37on.htm


    Also found this reference to early Bolwells in Wilts
    https://www.moonrakers.org.uk/md/Prob...cs/waout0.html

    If you need any pics taken - then as I live in Salisbury - london Rd Cemetery is about 1/2 ml from me - I'm happy to do so.

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    Thanks very much for that Hifly,
    the Moonrakers site looks really interesting.

    I've come across lots of Moxams in Wiltshire, there are lots in Ebbesbourne Wake too, going way back, and in Sixpenny Handley, in fact most of the villages west of Salisbury, going towards Blandford Forum and Shaftesbury, seem to have lots of them. I may well find they all connect up, and your Fovant info will come in handy in the future, thankyou.

    My Mary Moxam was born in Salisbury, on 14/01/1812, and christened with her sister Charlotte at St Edmunds on 02/02/1814. I've found only one more child, Elizabeth, b 1818. Parents are William and Lettice. Now, you'd think, with a name like Lettice, I'd be able to trace back easily, but no, I've got stuck with them too! My guess is that they may well have come to Salisbury, from an outlying area, around this time. I'll keep trying, Thanks again, Birdlip

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    Hifly,
    thanks very much too for your offer to take photos, what a kind person you are!! How would you do that? I guess I would need to send you my email address? Thats not a problem, just let me know what I need to do.

    I would be interested to see the details on the memorial inscription, from the cemetry. James Bolwells date of death is 15 May 1875, age 63. Mary Bolwell was 74, she died on 12th March 1886. The ref Number is 113748. I hope all that helps.

    I have been stuck on this branch of the family for years, so anything you can help me with is much appreciated.

    kind regards, Birdlip

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    I suppose all this Moxam stuff should go under a new thread, really, shouldn't it? I'm new to this site as you might have gathered. Oh well.

    Birdlip

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    With regard to Mary Moxam: I have found a marriage for a William Moxam in St. Edmunds to Amelia Bennet on 21 Oct 1833. Could he have been a brother to Mary, married 2 years before, and a son of William and Lettice? Or perhaps a second marriage of Mary's father?

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    In the 1841 census, in St. Edmunds, Wiltshire, there is a William Moxham, age 50, then a Milyer (Amelia?), age 25, and children Edward(17), Frederick(15), and Walter(13). It is possible Milyer is either a second wife or one of William's children, but given the marriage in 1833 she may have been his second wife, making the others children who are obviously from a prior marriage. Their immediate neighbors are John Bolwell(40), his wife Mary(40), and their sons Frederick(15), John(14), and Robert(1). Age rounding in 1841 adds to the confusion!

    If William was Mary's brother, and John was related to James, living as neighbors would certainly strengthen the family ties...

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    In Mar qtr 1851, there is a marriage for Amelia Moxham in Salisbury, Wiltshire (vol 8, pg 656). There is also a death for William Moxham in Sep qtr 1841 in Salisbury, Wiltshire (vol 8, pg 203). It would be worth sending for these certificates to find out if William's father was William, and if information on Amelia reveals her to have been the daughter or widow of William...

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdlip View Post
    Parents are William and Lettice. Now, you'd think, with a name like Lettice, I'd be able to trace back easily,
    From the parish records of St Edmunds, Salisbury, William 'MAXAM' was married to Laetitia CARTER on 14th October, 1809, so she must have been wife number 1. Wife number 2, as we know, was Amelia BENNETT, who married William MOXAM, porter, on 21st October 1833.

    As for the BOLWELLs, the parish records of Baverstock show James BOLWELL of Anstey marrying Sarah ROWDEN of Baverstock on 27th January 1763. From the IGI we have James christened 8th April 1764 at Ansty and Allen christened 18th September 1774, also at Ansty.

    With this combination of names, especially Allen, is it possible that John the basket maker b. abt. 1777 and married in 1798 was a brother of young James and Allen?

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    Excellent Thomasin, thanks so much for that... more puzzle pieces!

    Those Anstey Bolwell's have interested me for a while now, they've been at the top of my strays pile, it's particularly that Allen name. There's an earlier ALLEN BOLWELL here, who I'm guessing is the father of James who marries in 1763;

    (From Family History Online) Sarum Marriage Licence Bonds
    1727 Oct 5 Groom Allen BOLWELL aged- occ malster residing at Swallowcliffe, Wil Bride Sarah FURNILLE aged- residing at Tisbury, wil Bondsmen JAMES William, Berwick St John, Wilts, to be married at Combe (Thats it. Combe What? there doesn't seem to be a place in Wilts called just Combe)

    and a birth on IGI;
    Hanah BOLWELL ch 7 Feb 1737 Independent, Tisbury Wiltshire. parents Allen BOLWELL and Sarah

    and from TNA;

    Information relating to document ref. no. 2667/1/1/179- counterpart of lease: Henry, lord Arundell to Allen BOLWELL of Ansty, maltster: house etc, Ansty. date: 1756

    Information relating to document ref. no. 2667/1/1/216 Lease: Henry, Lord Arundell to James BOLWELL of Ansty, labourer: cottage etc, Ansty Date: 1773

    Swallowcliffe and Ansty are neighbouring parishes, and Tisbury is only a few miles away. Most of Tisbury, and the surrounding area seems to have been owned by the Arundells. Ansty is ten miles or so from Salisbury, towards the Dorset border.

    I'm really stuck as to where I can go from here though, how I can try to connect them all up ...anyone have any ideas? Would the documents from TNA be worth getting, would they contain any other information?

    birdlip

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