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    Did the tree-owner refer to the death certificate? Basic info from early certificates can often be found on Family Search, but only the basics.

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    Hi Lesley
    It is the actual image of the death certificate the owner, dommorgan68, has posted on their Dowd Family Tree .
    Christina
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    Confirmation of Chris' finding - there is an 1856 death cert on Scotlands People for Mary Ann Kirby age 30, other surname Mcmillan, mother's surname Wales. I do not, at the moment, have enough credits to download it. There is also one for Mary Ann Kirby, other surname Fletcher aged 81 (the only one with that combination of surnames), but it's for 1876 - 20 year later. Both were registered in Mochrum.

    Looks like 2 different women, but I'm on my post Christmas economy drive so won't be buying SP credits to check for a while.

    PS 1856 certificates are the least informative for Scotland - panic after they were flooded with info by 1855 certs (the most informative ever).

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    1841 Scotland census
    Port William Village, Mochram Wigtownshire
    John Fletcher 50 Spirit dealer born Scotland
    Ann Fletcher 35 England
    Mary Kirkby 14 Wigtownshire
    Thos Kirkby 11
    Joseph Kirkby 9
    William Kirkby 6
    Sarah Kirkby 4
    Janet Gilmore 15 Scotland

    All of these children born in Scotland so when did Ann and Robert Kirkby/Kirby move to Scotland? Surname is Kirkby on the transcription. You will only see the original images on Scotlandspeople pay per view site.


    1861 Scotland census Transcription only.
    City Of Glasgow Bank, Mochram

    Ann Fletcher 58, Head, Supported by son, England
    Thomas W Kirby 32 son Tailor or fisherman born Mochrum
    Robert Mcmillan 13 grandson, son of Thomas W Kirby.
    Ann Kirby 10 dau of Thomas W Kirby, Mochrum
    Mary Mcmaster 3 gdau, father Thomas Kirby born Mochram


    Marriage - Original image on ancestry.com
    By Banns
    Ann Wales
    Marriage Date - 15 Aug 1824, by consent of friends
    Marriage Place - St Mary's Swillington,York,England
    Spouse - Robert Kirby of Methley (In West Yorkshire)
    FHL Film Number 918354

    The witnesses names are hard to read, possibly John Hodgson and Thomas Lemmins Smales. No parents mentioned, Ann made her mark, Robert signed his name.

    Christina
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    William Burroughs

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