Howe Green, Essex

[sarahtrems]

Thanks guys - I didn't have a clue where to start apart from visiting the ERO. Should I be subscribing to any census sites where I can obtain further information? If so, which are the best/official sites.

It also looks as though the farm had another name as well as Howe Green Farm, Howe Farm and Howe Farm House. No wonder everything is a bit confusing !!

Sarah

[Mythology]

Given that you're going to ERO anyway, and your interest is in a fixed place, not a family who might be anywhere in the country, I wouldn't spend money on census sites. They have the Essex census films at ERO, and it's not exactly the most densely populated of parishes, won't take you long to read through Sandon and spot it.

[Peter Goodey]

"I didn't have a clue where to start apart from visiting the ERO. Should I be subscribing to any census sites where I can obtain further information?"

I don't think you should subscribe to any census sites purely for this job (although you might have other reasons).

As others have pointed out, Essex RO is the place to visit and probably, in due course, the National Archives. In addition to the other resources mentioned, they will also have the censuses you need.

House history is a specialised area which is only distantly related to genealogy. I still think you need to look out a book that deals with this particular subject.

I've given you a link to one site that may help. Despite the many adverts for Ancestry on that site, I don't think Ancestry would actually be much help to you in this study.

[Peter Goodey]

Ah ha! Mythology and I have just said the same thing.

It must be good advice, then!

[GeoffD]

That's odd - I remember seeing it on the 1861.

I didn't get around to browsing the 1861 - life and work intervened. But I even dredged through the neighbouring Great Baddow images to see if it had jumped across a line somewhere.
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1861 RG9/1082 p.21 f.140

Schd 125 Howe Farm
James Hughes, Head, Married, 52, Farmer of 81 acres employing 4 men and two boys, b. Rivenhall.
Lydia Elizabeth do, wife, married, 41, b. Woodham Ferris
Ann Elizabeth do, daughter, 5, Scholar, b. Sandon
Louisa Biggs, servant, 12, House servant, b. Gt Baddow.
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1851 HO107/776 p.26 f.561
Schd 104 Howe Farm
James Hughes, Head, unmarried, 42, farmer of 81 acres employing 5 labourers, Rivenhall
Anna Sparrow, mother, widow, 70, Annuitant (formerly farmer's wife), Rivenhall
Mary Rumsey, servant, unmarried, House servant, Great Baddow.
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1841 HO107/326/6 p.7 f.6
How Farm (enumerator spelled Howe as How, consistently)
James Hughes, male, 30 farmer, in county
Emma do, female, 35, in county
Jane do, female, 25, in county
Thomas do, male, 20, Farmer, in county
Anna Sparrow, female, 60, Independent, in county.
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Doesn't get a mention in 1901 Census. So there are all the census records I could find. The Hughes family seemed to hang onto the place for quite a while.

[Mythology]

Geoff - you are too efficient!

I'm still not 100% organised here after my move, couldn't find where I'd put my 1861 Essex CDs at the time, tripped over them this morning (plus the 1841) and came on here with the intention of posting the info ...

... but you've beaten me to it with your edit (and included 1851, which I don't have) - that's saved me some typing.

[GeoffD]

Such a small ED, and with a good broadband connection it doesn't take long to flip through the pages offered on the A-place.


But I am wondering about Titles in the UK. Here, in our young country, we had Torrens Titles from very early on, and a titles search on a property is easy and relatively inexpensive. I have often gone back to the very first title documents for properties, usually signed by the Colonial Governor of the time. How difficult is a titles search over there. I'm asking because I am trying to finalise a discussion about a certain house in Illogan and the only way to do it would be to get hold of title deeds going back to no later than about 1840.

[Mythology]

I honestly don't have a clue, Geoff.

To quote Peter:
"House history is a specialised area which is only distantly related to genealogy."
Where they overlap - the obvious example being the tithe map that I referred to - I can spot something that will be useful, as that's the sort of thing that I've had out at ERO for family history reasons, but beyond that I'd be seeking advice myself.

My natural unguided instinct would be to trot along to the Land Registry, but I could be completely off track there - I really have no idea whether or not they'd be any use historically.

[GeoffD]

My natural unguided instinct would be to trot along to the Land Registry, but I could be completely off track there - I really have no idea whether or not they'd be any use historically.

That'd be one long trot, Myth.

[tommy166]

This is NA research guide for Title:

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/c...sLeafletID=148

Tom