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  1. #31

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    Hi Darryl,
    I can’t see why your messages vanished - had it been by the deliberate action of Mods or Admin, it takes several steps to delete messages, and we usually discuss what and why in the Mod’s area of the Forum, as well as telling the author. The message is retained for a while and can be seen by Mods and Admin.
    A total removal of a post requires an extra step, and is only used for spam and the like. If you had done anything to merit that, you would have been banned as well.

    It sounds like a glitch of some sort. Did they vanish after they appeared after you hit send and they’d appeared on the forum, or before?
    I’ll have another look after the on-coming thunderstorm has passed.

  2. #32

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    Lesley,
    Thank you for your extremely kind note. The postings "disappeared" in the sense that after I hit the "post quick reply" button, each was never posted. It must have been some kind of glitch. But it's O.K. I just sent Tony a note that did go through and it contained the essence of what I said in those messages that never transmitted.
    Darryl

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    Tony,
    The following article appeared in the June 1904 (Vol. 23, No. 6) issue of "The Peacemaker," the periodical of the Universal Peace Union that was published in "Parkesburg and Philadelphia." Note your great-great grandfather Arnold Delisle's (a.k.a. Arthur Lee's) picture in the portrait gallery of peace advocates that had been assembled by Mrs. Spray. The article appeared on pgs. 142-143 of the above-mentioned issue of "The Peacemaker":

    "Commemoration Meeting in Colorado

    Editors Peacemaker:--
    You will be pleased to know that far away in our niche in the Rocky Mountains, the seed of "Peace and Arbitration" has taken root, and has a fine and vigorous growth in the work of Mrs. Ruth H. Spray.
    At her pleasant home on May 17th, in her regular "Tuesday Club" work, she celebrated the fourth anniversary of the opening of the "Hague Court of Arbitration" in an enthusiastic manner. Several of the club members assisted Mrs. Spray in presenting our national depravity and partial evolution. The work of a number of prominent peace advocates was dwelt upon. Special mention was made of the late Princess Wiszniewski's great work for peace education. Her Petition was placed on the table for all who wish to add their names.
    Miss Jessie Ackerman's new mission in the field of Peace work created much interest. A tribute was paid to the peaceful record of the Israelites. It was mentioned that the latest literature and instructions of the G.A.R. are for peace.
    We listened to the "Song of the Twentieth Century" by Elizabeth Lloyd, and the "Reign of Peace" by B.W. James, both of which lent charm and strength to the general subject, while the picture gallery Mrs. Spray had collected and arranged and her running comments were a positive delight. Prominent among the pictures were those of Dr. Edward Everett Hale, Dr. B.F. Trueblood, Hon. Andrew D. White, Hon. John W. Foster, Charles Sumner, Mrs. May Wright Sewall, Elihu Burrritt. And from over the sea, John Bright, Arnold DeLisle, Henri Dunant, Prince Mirza Kahn, Princess Wiszniewski, M. Frederic Passy, Queen Wilhelmina--and Mrs. Spray begged us not to smile when she came to that of the poor little Czar of Russia, saying she believed the Czar was honest in his words for peace, but powerless to carry out his convictions under existing circumstances.
    The parlors of our hostess were fragrant with apple blossoms, and delicious refreshments were served.
    The beautiful picture in colors of the "Ensign of Peace"--the star spangled banner on a field of white--presented by Dr. Robert S. Freedman of New York through Miss Arabella Carter, of Philadelphia, was given to each as a souvenir of this most instructive occasion.
    M. Alexina Fox,
    Salida, Colo. "

    Tony, the G.A.R. mentioned in the article was the Grand Army of the Republic, the main organization of Union veterans of the American Civil War (a.k.a. The War Between the States). As the United States at this time operated under isolationism (i.e. not meddling in the affairs of foreign nations) and the Monroe Doctrine (we'd stay out of the wars and affairs of foreign nations and in return expected them to not create any more colonies in North and South America, not attack any country on either American continent, and stay out of our affairs), you can see how a Civil War veterans organization could support pacifism because pacifism meant staying out of foreign wars.
    Don't forget to contact the Church of the Brethren as Arthur Lee claimed to have been a minister of that denomination. Also don't forget to contact the Royal Historical Society as he claimed to be a fellow of that organization. Contacting the International Red Cross would probably be a good idea, given his involvement with them. The American Peace Society apparently still exists and it would be good to contact them because Alfred Love's Universal Peace Union was originally formed by dissident members of the APS who were shocked by the APS's failure to oppose the Civil War (since the APS saw the Union as justly punishing criminals--i.e., the rebelling Confederates). Above all--Above all!!--don't neglect to contact Swarthmore College. I really think they may have material about Arnold/Arthur.
    The above article mentions the portrait of Arnold/Arthur. Do you have a picture of him?
    Darryl
    Last edited by Darryl Thompson; 18-06-2021 at 3:44 AM. Reason: I was trying to edit this because the beginning of each paragraph should be indented and it wasn't in the posted version.

  4. #34

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    Tony,
    The following article appeared in the June 1904 (Vol. 23, No. 6) issue of "The Peacemaker," the periodical of the Universal Peace Union that was published in "Parkesburg and Philadelphia." Note your great-great grandfather Arnold Delisle's (a.k.a. Arthur Lee's) picture in the portrait gallery of peace advocates that had been assembled by Mrs. Spray. The article appeared on pgs. 142-143 of the above-mentioned issue of "The Peacemaker":

    Commemoration Meeting in Colorado

    Editors Peacemaker:--
    You will be pleased to know that far away in our niche in the Rocky Mountains, the seed of "Peace and Arbitration" has taken root, and has a fine and vigorous growth in the work of Mrs. Ruth H. Spray.
    At her pleasant home on May 17th, in her regular "Tuesday Club" work, she celebrated the fourth anniversary of the opening of the "Hague Court of Arbitration" in an enthusiastic manner. Several of the club members assisted Mrs. Spray in presenting our national depravity and partial evolution. The work of a number of prominent peace advocates was dwelt upon. Special mention was made of the late Princess Wiszniewski's great work for peace education. Her Petition was placed on the table for all who wish to add their names.
    Miss Jessie Ackerman's new mission in the field of Peace work created much interest. A tribute was paid to the peaceful record of the Israelites. It was mentioned that the latest literature and instructions of the G.A.R. are for peace.
    We listened to the "Song of the Twentieth Century" by Elizabeth Lloyd, and the "Reign of Peace" by B.W. James, both of which lent charm and strength to the general subject, while the picture gallery Mrs. Spray had collected and arranged and her running comments were a positive delight. Prominent among the pictures were those of Dr. Edward Everett Hale, Dr. B.F. Trueblood, Hon. Andrew D. White, Hon. John W. Foster, Charles Sumner, Mrs. May Wright Sewall, Elihu Burrritt. And from over the sea, John Bright, Arnold DeLisle, Henri Dunant, Prince Mirza Kahn, Princess Wiszniewski, M. Frederic Passy, Queen Wilhelmina--and Mrs. Spray begged us not to smile when she came to that of the poor little Czar of Russia, saying she believed the Czar was honest in his words for peace, but powerless to carry out his convictions under existing circumstances.
    The parlors of our hostess were fragrant with apple blossoms, and delicious refreshments were served.
    The beautiful picture in colors of the "Ensign of Peace"--the star spangled banner on a field of white--presented by Dr. Robert S. Freedman of New York through Miss Arabella Carter, of Philadelphia, was given to each as a souvenir of this most instructive occasion.
    M. Alexina Fox,
    Salida, Colo.

    Tony, the G.A.R. mentioned in the article was the Grand Army of the Republic, the main organization of Union veterans of the American Civil War (a.k.a. The War Between the States). As the United States at this time operated under isolationism (i.e. not meddling in the affairs of foreign nations) and the Monroe Doctrine (we'd stay out of the wars and affairs of foreign nations and in return expected them to not create any more colonies in North and South America, not attack any country on either American continent, and stay out of our affairs), you can see how a Civil War veterans organization could support pacifism because pacifism meant staying out of foreign wars.
    Tony, don't forget to contact the Church of the Brethren as Arthur Lee claimed to have been a minister of that denomination. Also don't forget to contact the Royal Historical Society as he claimed to be a fellow of that organization. Contacting the International Red Cross would probably be a good idea, given his involvement with them. The American Peace Society apparently still exists and it would be good to contact them because Alfred Love's Universal Peace Union was originally formed by dissident members of the APS who were shocked by the APS's failure to oppose the Civil War (since the APS saw the Union as justly punishing criminals--i.e., the rebelling Confederates). Above all--Above all!!--don't neglect to contact Swarthmore College. I really think they may have material about Arnold/Arthur.
    The above article mentions the portrait of Arthur. Do you have a picture of him?

  5. #35

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    Tony,
    How are you? Have you been able to turn up anything more about Arnold DeLisle/Arthur Lee?
    Darryl Thompson

  6. #36

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    Tony,
    Have you turned up anything more about your great-grandfather Arthur?
    Darryl

  7. #37

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    Darryl, Tony will only see your messages if he comes to the forum, which he hasn’t done since June last year. He will only get our notification that someone has replied if his electronic contact information is still the same.

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