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    rolibarnes
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    Smile John Warne & Elizabeth Harris

    Looking for some help on both. They are my gggrandparents. John was born
    abt 1813 in Mary Tavy,Devon,Calstock,Cornwell. & Elizabeth abt 1816 same place. This info came from 1851 census in Cornwall. Any help with parents & places would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Roger

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    1841 census HO107/233/3 folio 8 page 10, Blackdown, Mary Tavy, Devon
    John Warne 50 Copper miner
    Francis " 15
    Alexander " 15
    Samuel " 14
    Absolom " 11
    Joseph " 9

    Living in the same house, but a separate family unit:
    John Warne 25 Copper miner
    Betsy " 25
    James " 4
    John " 3
    Emanuel " 1
    Ann Willcock 25 F.S.
    William " 13 Lead miner

    All except John age 50 were born in the county. Ages 15+ rounded down to nearest 5 years.

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    contd.

    On page 11
    James Warne 45 Copper miner
    Melisa " 35
    Betsy " 17
    Maryann " 15
    James " 13
    Absolom " 10
    Sophia " 7
    William " 5
    Hannah " 2
    Ann " 1 mo

    On page 12
    William Nantwale [?] 35 Copper miner
    Ann " 35
    Emma " 7
    Ann " 5
    Harriet " 3
    Living in same house but separate family unit:
    John Warne 82 Blacksmith

    All except John Warne 45, John Warne 82 & Ann Nantwale 35 were born in the county.

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    contd. 1841 census

    page 15 Blackdown
    Ann Warne 60

    HO107/233/4 folio 19 page 31, Village, Mary Tavy Devon
    Thomas [?] Warne 40 Copper miner
    Jane " 40
    Ann " 20
    Eliza " 15
    ? [female] " 10 [?]
    Francis [male] " 9
    Emlini [?] [female ] "6
    All except Thomas 40 born in the county

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    Default Calstock - Mary Tavy

    Calstock is a village in Cornwall on the banks of the River Tamar - the dividing line between Cornwall and Devon. It once was a thriving port, dealing with mineral ores and fruit & vegetables. Mary Tavy is a village in West Devon in the foothills of Dartmoor. The connection between the two is the River Tavy and a canal between the rivers Tavy & Tamar which is fed by the waters of the Tavy.

    There were mines near Mary Tavy (one was Wheal Betsy I believe) and the rivers and canal were used to move the ore from there to Morwellham Quay on the Devon side of the Tamar just upstream of Calstock and onwards worldwide. Morwellham also had a copper mine, and the Calstock area was peppered with mines. Many of the remains can still be seen.

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    According to the IGI, John was probably the son of John Warne & Catharine Barratt, c. 2 Feb 1813 at Marytavy. They were married 1 Jan 1811 at Marytavy, with eldest son William being c. 16 June 1811. The IGI record 10 children to the couple.

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    1851 census HO107/1884 folio 12 page 16 Mary Tavy Town, Devon

    Francis Warn head M 53 copper miner, Cornwall St Stevens
    Jane " wife M 51, Devonshire Mary Tavy
    Jemima " dau U 21 labourer at the mine, Devonshire Mary Tavy
    Francis " son U 19 " ", Devonshire Mary Tavy
    Emly " dau U 15 " ", Devonshire Mary Tavy

    From the IGI, children of John Warn & Ann, christened at St Stephen in Brannel, Cornwall:
    William Newton c.25 Dec 1786
    John c.26 Dec 1788
    Thomas c.27 Dec 1790
    Emmaus C.25 Mar 1793
    Francis c.4 Jun 1797

    Marriage of John Warne & Ann Newton 25 Dec 1785 at St Stephen in Brannel, Cornwall.

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    rolibarnes
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    Default John Warne & Elizabeth Harris

    Thanks so much for all the information. I have spent the last few days reading & re-reading what you sent. I will continue to digest this & tie it in with what I have & see what I come up with. I am fairly new at this process of posting to forums and talking back & forth, so it take me a little while to grasp everything.. Another forum member found John Warne & Elizabeth Harris Warne in Cornwall in the 1851 census along with my ggrandfather Josiah b1846. Jamesb1837,John b1839,& Manuel b1841 were born in Mary Tavy. Josiah was born in Gunnislake,Colstock. I really appreciate all your help.. Thanks

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    Default John Warne and Elizabeth Harris

    Quote Originally Posted by rolibarnes View Post
    Looking for some help on both. They are my gggrandparents. John was born
    abt 1813 in Mary Tavy,Devon,Calstock,Cornwell. & Elizabeth abt 1816 same place. This info came from 1851 census in Cornwall. Any help with parents & places would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Roger
    Roger, John Warne and Elizabeth Harris are also my great-great grandparents, through their son Francis Warne. I'm keen to know who John Warne's parents were, if you have that information.
    Garry Warne (Melbourne Australia)

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    Hi Garry, welcome to Brit-Gen.

    rolibarnes hasn't visited the forum since 2009. If his settings require a notification of your post, and he still has the same email address, then he might respond.

    In the meantime, there is a record of John Warne's baptism, as follows:

    John WARNE born/baptised *February 1813 Mary Tavy to John and Catharine. Residence - Barn Town, father's occupation – miner.

    *Transcripts differ as to the date of birth and date of baptism, 2 Feb 1813 being quoted for baptism and 20 Feb 1813 for birth!

    A John WARNE married Catharine BARRATT in Mary Tavy 1 Jan 1811. (see #6)

    Peter

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