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    This is the only likely birth in Reading for...

    This is the only likely birth in Reading for William, the record has no MMN so probably an illegitimate birth. William could have invented his father's name for his marriage certificate or perhaps...
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    WILLIAMS, WILLIAM - GRO Reference: 1868 S...

    WILLIAMS, WILLIAM -
    GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 216
    No Mother's maiden name entered.

    He was baptised 23rd May 1869 at Croydon, St John.
    William Williams...
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    1891,84, Church St, Deptford. RG12; Piece: 494;...

    1891,84, Church St, Deptford. RG12; Piece: 494; Folio: 12; Page: 11
    William Smart 22, hawker, Croydon
    Mary Ellen Smart 20, hawker

    Mary Ellen could be the witness at Ellen Matilda and John...
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    1891 census, RG12; Piece: 273; Folio: 144; Page:...

    1891 census, RG12; Piece: 273; Folio: 144; Page: 55;
    Ellen Smart and dau Ellen Smart are lodging at: 18, Strand St lodging house, Christchurch, Spitalfields
    Ellen Smart 42, hawker, married,...
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    This looks like Ellen Matilda's birth...

    This looks like Ellen Matilda's birth registration.
    SMART, ELLEN WILLIAMS, Mother's maiden name WILLIAMS
    GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 814
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    There is a tree on Ancestry suggesting Ellen...

    There is a tree on Ancestry suggesting Ellen Matilda Jones was also known as Ellen Matilda Williams. These births do appear to fit, as yet I haven't found one for Ellen Matilda Smart/Jones/Williams....
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    These records are for Ellen Matilda's parents. ...

    These records are for Ellen Matilda's parents.




    As it seems they didn't marry until 1884 perhaps the children's births were registered with their mother's surname.

    William's marriage...
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    1881, 44 Giffen St Deptford St Paul. RG11; Piece:...

    1881, 44 Giffen St Deptford St Paul. RG11; Piece: 702; Folio: 9; Page: 11
    William Smart 32, labourer, Reading Berkshire
    Ellen M. Smart 32, London Hammer (something, could be Hammerton or...
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    Hi Christina, It looks like our posts crossed,...

    Hi Christina, It looks like our posts crossed, sorry I've repeated the information you gave but we do agree so that's good :)
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    The marriage took place 21st May 1894 at St...

    The marriage took place 21st May 1894 at St John's Deptford. Ellen Matilda Smart was 20yrs father William a labourer. John Henry Russell 23yrs, a carman father John Henry Russell a labourer, both...
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    Helachau, I didn't look on FMP, I do have a sub...

    Helachau, I didn't look on FMP, I do have a sub but find it unwieldy, however, it does have some records not available on other sites. I looked at The Genealogist and Ancestry.

    That's an example...
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    There is a William and Hannah Prior at St Andrews...

    There is a William and Hannah Prior at St Andrews Street, Tiverton on the 1861 census, they have three children with them Maria, Francis and James but no Thomas.
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    The first one in Great Torrington can be found in...

    The first one in Great Torrington can be found in 1871.

    Thomas son of William and Hannah in Tiverton I cannot find in 1861, where did you find the record? I've looked on two sites I use. Can you...
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    Hello Trapper, The marriages are from FreeBMD.

    Hello Trapper,

    The marriages are from FreeBMD.
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    I agree with you, Barbara.

    I agree with you, Barbara.
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    That's interesting, so possibly Thomas didn't...

    That's interesting, so possibly Thomas didn't first settle on Cottles Island.
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    If Mary was Mary E Pryor this could be her death...

    If Mary was Mary E Pryor this could be her death record.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQF-Z2HT
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    Family Search has Thomas' death certificate, the...

    Family Search has Thomas' death certificate, the information is:

    Thomas Pryor, died Sept 20th 1935, age 81yrs, of senility, place of death Cottles Island, place of birth England.
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    We can eliminate Thomas Prior son of William and...

    We can eliminate Thomas Prior son of William and Mary Ann, Launceston as he can be found on UK census 1871.

    Births, Marriages and Deaths (BMD's) are arranged quarterly as Jan - Mar, Apr- Jun; Jul...
  20. Thread: STOWAWAYS

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    No problem, TrapperB.

    No problem, TrapperB.
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    Possible marriages for parents of Thomas Prior ...

    Possible marriages for parents of Thomas Prior

    Apr- Jun 1853 William Prior/Mary Ann Baker, Launceston 5c 78

    Apr-Jun 1852 Thomas Prior/Eliza Painter, Tavistock 5b 632a

    Oct - Dec 1853,...
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    If he was born in Devon these are the possible...

    If he was born in Devon these are the possible birth registrations.

    The surname is spelt PRIOR but that's OK as Thomas was more than likely illiterate (as were many people back then) he wouldn't...
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    Hi TrapperB, yes the tree is on Ancestry Com. ...

    Hi TrapperB, yes the tree is on Ancestry Com. tree name is: Janes, Ribble Family Tree

    Apologies, I should have welcomed you to B-G on my first post on the thread, but better late than never!
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    If anyone can help TrapperB with his query please...

    If anyone can help TrapperB with his query please add to this thread.

    https://www.british-genealogy.com/forum/threads/94375-Stowaway-with-very-little-info?highlight=
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    There's a tree on Ancestry which may be him, his...

    There's a tree on Ancestry which may be him, his wife is Mary. The tree has attached thee Canadian 1921 census which has wife, Mary, a dau Joy and son Augustus would that be your chap?

    The tree...
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