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indeed, nor me. Elizabeth Ann Byles also with no mother's maiden name. So her mother might I suppose be the Elizabeth Byles born Leicester 1843, parents William & Mary.

a tree on @ncestry has plumped for the Elizabeth Ann Byles born Leicester,1869

apologies, I didn't read the opening post properly.

for you to know that Samuel John Williams's wife was named Jane Baker, without a marriage record, I assume they had children with mother's maiden name Baker? Where and when was the first child born?...

FamilySearch seems to suggest ordering certificates from County level as opposed to State. Which in your case would I think be Multnomah County.

That has taken me to this page...

thanks from me too

thanks I'll try that.

I rather misrepresented that burial register page. The grave numbers do follow a mostly logical pattern.

Actually I think its me getting confused by the word plot. I...

thanks for that.

I don't know whether DeceasedOnline is using the phrase "grave reference" in their own peculiar way resulting in 22 people all apparently having the same grave reference.

I've...

I now see that this is nothing to do with them being infants. Having checked some adult ancestors I am getting the same thing - multiple unrelated names listed together with the same "grave...

well I've now checked another of my grandfather's brothers who also died as an infant. Now I am getting 21 different names, all unrelated to my relation, but all dated in March 1897.

prompted by another thread about DeceasedOnline vouchers I have just checked the burial record of one of my grandfather's brothers who died as an infant. For my £1.50 it said I would get grave...

no I don't have the will. Its not really important to me, it just struck me as a bit odd or different, but I take on board all you're saying. I'm sure her descendants won't thank me for drawing the...

thanks, I guess I understand that, but there isn't that much difference between all the names. Frederick Henry Bloggs might be known to his chums as Fred Harry Bloggs, but would that really have to...

I was wondering if anyone would like to look at the probate entry for Ysobel Althea Drake who died 27 September 1940 and perhaps suggest an explanation for the slightly odd list of name variations,...

its mentioned in section 1.8 of this article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kolkata_Derby_matches

I see. That's very helpful thank you.

I have someone in my extended tree who enlisted with the Coldstream Guards in 1904 and is in the records with a specific service number. When he died in France in September 1914 he was still with...

sorry, you already mentioned they were twins.

I'm not finding the estate file you mention. What is his date of death please?

In the war pension record it gives his date of birth as 17 August...

the two daughters born 1912 are mentioned in the war pension record of Abraham/Andrew Johannes Fourie.

they appear to be twins?
Jeanetta and Marie Johanna both born 9 December 1912. It doesn't...

if I have the correct person the marriage to Martha Jacoba Harmse (aged "19") at Witbank was 18 May 1917 rather than 1915, but perhaps thats what you meant. Of course that would make her very young...

so the daughter born UK 1919 is Josephine Fourie at Richmond with mother's maiden name CLARK ?
birth index volume 2a page 794

those marriages are also on your favourite FamilySearch! I didn't investigate them any further, but they were all South Africa. My guess would be that they are Jackman sisters. And one of the will...

we don't seem to be entertaining the idea that Ephraim might have been born with a different surname. One of my great-grandfathers, who was born out of wedlock, appears on his first two censuses...

in your opening post you mention "the S.African website" - which website is that please ?

I notice that Mr & Mrs Woolridge witness Alfred's death notice where they are described as "friends" of the deceased - so I would guess that all those Jackman ladies are similarly friends rather than...