John Lewis Davies. Born 6 Jan 1819. Carmarthe

[brentor boy]

This information is inscribed on his grave marker in Louisiana.

There is some circumstantial evidence that he was born in Llansteffan, the son of George and Margaret (Lewis). He does not feature with their family in 1841.

I would welcome any help to put the record straight.

[Sandyhall]

1861 Census is a boarder in the household of William and Sarah Davis

John Lewis Davies
Cardiganshire
Event Place St Mary, Cardiganshire, Wales
Ecclesiastical Parish St David
Registration District Cardigan
Residence Note High Street
Age 45
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation ...
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Birth Year (Estimated) 1816
Birthplace Conwil, Carmarthenshire
Page Number 2, Registration Number RG09, Piece/Folio 4175 / 62

[Sandyhall]

sorry that's the wrong one as have found his Naturalization Record,

John Lewis Davies
Louisiana Naturalization Records
Name John Lewis Davies
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1856
Event Place New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Birthplace Great Britain

[brentor boy]

Thanks, Sandy.

If he did not emigrate until 1856, presumably he should have been recorded somewhere in 1851, hopefully with place of birth. Have had a quick look but can find nothing obvious.

[Jomot1]

The naturalisation date isn't when he arrived, just when he was naturalised, and unfortunately his naturalisation doesn't state when he arrived. There is a possible record of his immigration here, although its 1844:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95JY-ZXY?i=626&cc=1916009

Looks like he married in 1852

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9BSZ-VKH

[almach]

Courtesy of Ancestry's
"Louisiana, Naturalization Records, 1836-1998 for John Lewis Davies
Eastern District Court Petitions and Applications Petitions and Applications, 1838 - 1903"

The petition states JLD was born in Glamorganshire and arrived in New Orleans on or about 26th Oct 1844

[almach]

Assuming you know the names of some of his children, could this be him in 1870?
New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
John L Davis 51, clerk city hall, real estate 20,000, personal estate 500, born England??
Elizabeth Davis 32, Ohio
John L Davis 16, Louisiana
Benjamin Davis 10, Louisiana
Marie Davis 8, Louisiana
Morgan Davis 2, Louisiana

[Sandyhall]

Assuming you know the names of some of his children, could this be him in 1870?
New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
John L Davis 51, clerk city hall, real estate 20,000, personal estate 500, born England??
Elizabeth Davis 32, Ohio
John L Davis 16, Louisiana
Benjamin Davis 10, Louisiana
Marie Davis 8, Louisiana
Morgan Davis 2, Louisiana

He married Elizabeth Sniker/Schnauker
they had 5 Children
Benjamine George
Morgan
John Lewis Jr
Mary Louise
Nellie Elizabeth

[brentor boy]

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your responses indicate both thoughtful and time consuming research.

Looking at my original post I now realise that I could have more explicit in expressing my objective. My prime interest is in George and Margaret (Lewis) Davies. A contributor on Roots Web World Connect names JLD as their son but offers no source in support of that assertion. There are, however, some circumstantial pointers.

The most obvious is the middle name, Lewis. Also JLD sits comfortably amongst their other known children all of whom, except the youngest, were born/baptised in Llansteffan. Additionally George and Margaret had a son, Benjamin George, their daughter Margaret had a son George Benjamin and JLD had a son Benjamin George.

What I am trying to establish is the parentage of JLD. If it can be shown that he is the son of George and Margaret than the information you have provided me with will be invaluable in tracing his life in America.

[Jomot1]

According to the Louisiana Biography & Obituary Index hosted by the New Orleans Public Library, an obituary was published in the Daily Picayune on 25 & 28 March 1897 - page 4 Column 7, although he is recorded as John LEWES Davies.

Copies can be ordered from the library, so perhaps this may give some more information?

[Sandyhall]

Ancestry has several Family trees some have mother Mary Rees b 1794 d 1856 others have Margaret Lewis b 1799 d 1815, Father George Davies but nothing to back them up. every one has taken info from "Ancestry Family Trees" with a lot of rubbish on them.

for instance 1841 Census someone has saved to John Lewis Davies has John Davies, Margaret and son John but they have is Parents Mary & Samuel Davies son John Davies

Someone has a photo - Louisiana Wills and Probate Records - John Lewis Davies where I took his children's names from.

[helachau]

Also JLD sits comfortably amongst their other known children all of whom, except the youngest, were born/baptised in Llansteffan. .



Struggling to find any Davies/Davis baptisms in Llanstephan (Llansteffan) 1810-1840 with parent George only or parents George and Margaret other than

Non Conformist Baptisms - New Chapel, Llanybri, denomination Independent
In the year 1818 -
Feb'y 18 - Elinor the daughter of George Davies and Margaret his wife, Pen_owyn (?), in the parish of Llanstephan was baptised.

What's the source of the bapismal info. re the children born Llansteffan?

[brentor boy]

Children of George Davies/ Margaret Lewis ( m 28 Aug 1813 Llansteffan)

Mary - bapt 25 Apr 1816 Carmarthen ( 1851 born Llansteffan)
Eleanor - bapt 18 Feb 1818 Llansteffan (1851 absent)
Benjamin George - b c 1823 (1851 Born Llansteffan)
Margaret - b c 1826 (1851 born Merthyr Tydfil)

That's all I know. In post #9 I did say " born/baptised"

[Sandyhall]

Children of George Davies/ Margaret Lewis ( m 28 Aug 1813 Llansteffan)

Mary - bapt 25 Apr 1816 Carmarthen ( 1851 born Llansteffan)
Eleanor - bapt 18 Feb 1818 Llansteffan (1851 absent)
Benjamin George - b c 1823 (1851 Born Llansteffan)
Margaret - b c 1826 (1851 born Merthyr Tydfil)

That's all I know. In post #9 I did say " born/baptised"

Can I ask Where did this information come from to back it up.

[brentor boy]

Indirectly from non-conformist records and extracted from census.

[helachau]

Is this the 1851 Census reference? HO107 2459 493 3

[brentor boy]

Is this the 1851 Census reference? HO107 2459 493 3

Yes, that's them.
1841 ref. HO 107 1415/9 Page 10