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LESLEY WARD
10-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Hello List!

I am looking for information on PAGE WARD b. 1801 Norfolk, d. June 1877 Chelsea whom I believe to be to be my gg grandfather. I have a business card which reads: PAGE WARD&Co
Manufacturers,
5 Ingram Court,
Fenchurch Street, London.

My g grandfather, JOHN PAGE WARD b. 13 Oct 1828 Suffolk d. 14 Apr 1884 Montreal ,Quebec, Canada. Married ELEANOR DOGGETT, 26 Dec 1863, St Georges Church, London. Both were residing in London at the time.

Any information about PAGE WARD, his wife, date of marriage and other issue will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Lesley

Peter Goodey
10-10-2005, 11:25 PM
"My g grandfather, JOHN PAGE WARD b. 13 Oct 1828 Suffolk d. 14 Apr 1884 Montreal ,Quebec, Canada. Married ELEANOR DOGGETT, 26 Dec 1863, St Georges Church, London. Both were residing in London at the time."


Doesn't answer your question but John Page Ward of 109 City Road. commercial clerk, appears to have gone bankrupt in 1869 (Source The Times, Wed Sep 8 1869, page 4)

Lynda Cunningham
10-10-2005, 11:56 PM
Hi Lesley

This might be something?

On the 1871 Census I found the following:-
RG10/79/43/16
St Luke Chelsea
48 Park Walk
Page Ward/Lodger/Widr/70/Retired Lace dealer/Upwell Norfolk

and a possible marriage - Pallots Marriage Index
St Marylebone 1826
Page Ward
Mary Chappell

best wishes
Lynda

LESLEY WARD
11-10-2005, 1:21 AM
"My g grandfather, JOHN PAGE WARD b. 13 Oct 1828 Suffolk d. 14 Apr 1884 Montreal ,Quebec, Canada. Married ELEANOR DOGGETT, 26 Dec 1863, St Georges Church, London. Both were residing in London at the time."


Doesn't answer your question but John Page Ward of 109 City Road. commercial clerk, appears to have gone bankrupt in 1869 (Source The Times, Wed Sep 8 1869, page 4)
Thank you Peter!!

Your tid bit of information confirms family legend. My grandmother told me that the family emigrated to Canada because John Page Ward had a business partner who ran off with the books and the money and left my g grandfather with the debt.

Is it possible for just anyone to access The Times archives?

Lesley

LESLEY WARD
11-10-2005, 1:24 AM
Thank you, Lynda for the lead.

Lesley

Lynda Cunningham
11-10-2005, 1:27 AM
Little bit more

1871 Census
RG10/399/4/1
ST LUKE MIDDLESEX
109 City Road
John Page Ward/Head/Mar/42/Commercial Traveller in Silks/Middlesex St James
Eleanor Ward/Wife/Mar/30/Middlesex,Kingsland
Ellen Ward/Daur/15/Middlesex Islington
Ernest P Ward/Son/6/Surrey Hatcham Park
Sydney B Ward/Son/4/Surrey Hatcham Park
Charles E Ward/Son/2/Middlesex Peckham
Gertrude L Ward/2mths/Middlesex St Lukes

1861 Census
RG9/143/66/11
2 Bellevue Terrace, Islington - St Jude
John P Ward/Head/Mar/32/Warehouseman Fancy goods/Middx St James Piccadilly
Mary A Ward/Wife/Mar/30/Middx St Pancras
Kate Ward/Daur/7/Middx Hoxton
Ellen Ward/Daur/4/Middx Islington

Lynda

LESLEY WARD
11-10-2005, 3:17 AM
So it appears that my g grandmother was the second wife of John Page. More threads to follow...

Thanks

Lesley

Peter Goodey
11-10-2005, 8:13 AM
and a possible marriage - Pallots Marriage Index
St Marylebone 1826
Page Ward
Mary Chappell

Mary "beloved wife of Mr Page Ward of Piccadilly" died "after a few days illness" on 19 Nov 1838 (The Times 22 Nov 1838).

Peter Goodey
11-10-2005, 8:18 AM
"Is it possible for just anyone to access The Times archives?"

The Times Digital Archive is widely available through libraries. Also, it's even more widely available on microfilm - the library may also have a separate CD based index.

There wasn't a full report of the bankruptcy - only a notice of the hearing - not really worth looking up.

Peter Goodey
11-10-2005, 8:19 AM
"So it appears that my g grandmother was the second wife of John Page"


Surely his (second) marriage certificate showed him as a widower?

Peter Goodey
11-10-2005, 8:23 AM
Deaths Jun 1877
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WARD Page 76 Chelsea 1a 201

It may be worth looking for a will.

Peter Goodey
11-10-2005, 8:41 AM
"So it appears that my g grandmother was the second wife of John Page"

On the contrary, if the dates are to tie up, it looks as if your ggmother was his first wife.

Of course the dates might be wrong or relate to the wrong people :( .

What are the sources of your information?