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Mitch in Notts
27-05-2017, 7:31 PM
I give and bequeth to my loveing wife Jane that ***** comonly called Nethersich **** within the Liberty of Wirkworth.

But what is the same word twice?


https://www.british-genealogy.com/extensions/uploads/efe4a651-04b8-4c43-8ae9-3ec9df86aa6e.jpg

Thanks

Mitch

elsinore
27-05-2017, 11:52 PM
Hi Mitch,

Assuming it's Wirksworth, Derbyshire, then I can't find any reference to a place called Nethersich.

Did your man have anything to do with mining/smelting? There is (or was) a place called Nether Mill, which was in the Liberty of Wirksworth and was around in the seventeenth century. There is a reference to it here:

http://www.
wirksworth.org.uk/A46-LMH.htm

Having said all that, I can't make out the word you're seeking! It looks like “triangle” in the first example. If I'm right about the mining connection, then I wonder if it's a dialect word.

Peter

almach
28-05-2017, 12:54 AM
Peter, I think you may be right as a triangle was a corner plot of land. There's reference here to Nether Sich, a pasture or meadow.

www.gnosallhistory.co.uk/index_htm_files/titheawards_occupier.pdf

Mitch in Notts
28-05-2017, 10:11 AM
The word 'Sitch' is used in the name of a lane and some farms in the area around Callow & Carsington Water in the parishes of Wirksworth & Kirk Ireton in Derbyshire - Nethersich (or Netherich) is probably an old spelling.
I was expecting the word I am seeking to have been a field, piece, parcel, copse, etc, or some such old word for a piece of land. Triangle would be relevant but I can't see the first letter being a T - compare it with the word 'that' in the image and it looks more like Priagle!!
Thanks for your input as I hadn't considered the term Triangle at all and it could well be relevant in future wills!

Mitch in Notts
28-05-2017, 10:22 AM
A family member has just suggested 'Pinple' - would this be used as a location word in 1727? Anybody any knowledge of old land terms?

arthurk
28-05-2017, 10:39 AM
My first thought on seeing it was 'pingle', and I think this might be right. Joseph Wright's dialect dictionary has this as a northern England and East Midlands term for a small enclosure or croft, or alternatively a clump of trees.

This link should take you to the entry:
https://
archive.org/stream/englishdialectdi04wrig#page/510/mode/2up

Alternatively, the whole dictionary can be accessed at
https://
archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Wright%2C%20Joseph%2 C%201855-1930%22%20dialect%20dictionary%20AND%20mediatype%3 Atexts

Mitch in Notts
28-05-2017, 11:22 AM
Thank you so much for that Arthur, and yes the first half of 'pinple' followed by the second half of 'triangle' makes a perfect 'Pingle'!
Oxford Dictionary has:

pingle
NOUN
Northern, English Regional, Midlands
rare
A small enclosed piece of land; a paddock, a close.

Perfect! Thanks again Mitch