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shaygriff
18-07-2016, 6:41 PM
Here's a hard one, I expect this name is very popular. The information I have is.
John Byrne, b. 1871 in Banbridge, Co. Down
Married: Anne Loughran, she was from Co Louth I think.
He died in Mullatee, Carlingford, Co Louth
They had 8 children ( at least) amongst them my grandfather:
Hugh Byrne
b. 19 May 1894 Ballaghan, Greenore, Co Louth, Ireland

d. Oct 1957 Greenore, Co Louth, Ireland

m. Cathrine O`Rourke.

Can someone help me please?

Shay

christanel
18-07-2016, 8:29 PM
Hello Shay
There is this baptism
Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms
John Byrne
born 10 Jan 1871 at Banbridge, Down, Ireland
Baptised Banbridge, Down, Ireland (no date given on the transcription)
Father - Patrick Valentine Byrne
Mother - Rose Mc Evoy

There are other baptisms for John Byrne in 1871 but not at Banbridge

Christina

christanel
18-07-2016, 8:35 PM
1901 census for John and Anne
Mullatee, Carligford, Louth
John Byrne 30 Stoker on railway engine born Down. Can read
Anne 30 born Louth Cannot read
Sarah 11 Louth
John 8 Louth
Hugh 7 Louth
Catherine 3 Louth
James 1 Louth


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christanel
18-07-2016, 8:44 PM
It pays to double check on these pay per view sites. There is also this baptism for a John Byrne in Banbridge

John Byrne
Born - 8 Aug 1871 Banbridge, Down, Ireland
Baptised - Banbridge, Down, Ireland
Father - John Byrne
Mother - Theresa Mcgrath

So there is a choice. The marriage record/certificate for John and Anne is needed. Although there is a public tree on ancestry which has the death of John Byrne son of John and Theresa registered Wellington New Zealand 7 Jun 1907. So that would appear to rule him out but this should be checked out.
Theresa, John and family are on the Scotland 1881/1891 censuses.
Christina

shaygriff
19-07-2016, 12:39 AM
Thank you Christina
The New Zealand connection is not us that's for sure.
I'm trying to get the marriage certificate but am having difficulty finding out where and how to apply online. The one place I did find only had the information from 1903.
Can you point me in the right direction. I'm betting that they married in Louth as all the kids are born there.

christanel
19-07-2016, 1:23 AM
Hi
You can search online here for BMD records http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
I had a quick look but couldn't find anything.
Then there is http://www.rootsireland.ie/

Christina

Elwyn Soutter
19-07-2016, 8:41 AM
Shay,

John & Annie in 1911 in Mullatee:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Carlingford/Mullatee/575269/

This looks to be their daughter Sarah working nearby in the same townland:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Carlingford/Mullatee/575259/

I suspect the marriage you need was registered in Banbridge 5.5.1889 between John Burns and Anne Lughran. (Most people were largely illiterate and variations in spelling like this are to be expected). There are several options for getting a copy of the certificate but the cheapest and quickest way of seeing the original document is the GRONI site. You can view the original certificate on-line, using the “search registrations” option:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.

shaygriff
19-07-2016, 1:48 PM
Thank you Elwyn. I'll get my card out :)

shaygriff
01-08-2016, 6:00 PM
Received the cert today. Now I'm hoping Family will agree that this is Our John & Anne. I don't like that Christanel mentioned one going to New Zealand. None of our lot did. ;)

christanel
01-08-2016, 7:35 PM
Hi
What is the name of John's father on the marriage certificate?


Now I can't find the public tree on ancestry that I referred to in post #4, bah.


Christina

shaygriff
01-08-2016, 7:47 PM
Hi Christina
John's father's name is also John on the certificate. I liked (!) that they wrote Byrnes first (which was my mother's surname) then crossed ot out and wrote Burns. :)

shaygriff
01-08-2016, 7:49 PM
It pays to double check on these pay per view sites. There is also this baptism for a John Byrne in Banbridge

John Byrne
Born - 8 Aug 1871 Banbridge, Down, Ireland
Baptised - Banbridge, Down, Ireland
Father - John Byrne
Mother - Theresa Mcgrath

So there is a choice. The marriage record/certificate for John and Anne is needed. Although there is a public tree on ancestry which has the death of John Byrne son of John and Theresa registered Wellington New Zealand 7 Jun 1907. So that would appear to rule him out but this should be checked out.
Theresa, John and family are on the Scotland 1881/1891 censuses.
Christina

I remember my gran saying that grandad's Family where Scotish. She could have meant that!

shaygriff
01-08-2016, 8:03 PM
I see in the 1881 census, there is no Young John,, he would have been 10 then, in the 1891 John is 9. So most probably not my Family.
Edit: Sorry just saw the Family in Dalziel County:Lanarkshire in 1881. This could be them ;) Can't find them in 1891 though