You know the sailor but not the ship? [Archive] - British Genealogy & Family History Forums

Gules

17-10-2004, 8:41 AM

Frank W

17-10-2004, 8:59 AM

Do you perhaps have Edward Randall PASCOE, who served as Master's Mate on HMS Naiad in 1805 ?.....He was at one time a midshipman, and got his Master's rating in 1808
Regards....Frank W

Gules

17-10-2004, 7:33 PM

Sorry nothing as yet ...but I'll bear the name in mind.

cliverob

24-10-2004, 6:37 AM

Hi
Do you have James ROBERTS please? Volunteered aged 21 November 1800 as a Landsman on HMS Superb. Served until February 1805 then transferred to HMS Ballahou. I know he sent money to family from a letter I have dated 1804. Regards, cliverob

Judy M

25-10-2004, 10:36 AM

Looking for any sign of Christopher ALBERT who was seving as a gunner on "Illustrious" until March 1795 then "Romulus" until 1797.
Can you help?

Swampy

26-10-2004, 12:31 AM

Do you have REYNOLDS on your database (forename unknown). 5xgreat-grandfather. Was in navy all of 1790s. Many thanks.

EEMuise

26-10-2004, 1:38 AM

I’ve been transcribing the registers listing sailors, and ship serving on, who sent part of their pay home, 1795 Navy Act, – in many cases this was to relatives – mother, wife sister etc.

Whilst this is an ongoing project I’ve over 5000 names, so if you are missing someone let me know and I’ll check my lists.
Would you have a "Berry", "Barry", "Geehan", "Gahan", or "Gehan" among your names?

Thank you for taking the time to check.

Ellen Muise
(in Canada)
[email protected]

Gules

27-10-2004, 7:52 PM

Sorry haven't reached 1800 yet ...but will look out for him

Gules

27-10-2004, 7:53 PM

Heavens I feel a failure :-) sorry not so far....

Gules

27-10-2004, 8:08 PM

Reynolds John Saint Magarita Godston Mother Elizabeth Reynolds of Godston Surry ADM 26/4 page 100
Reynolds William Quebec widow Elizabeth Thomas ADM 26/4 page 60
at Mr Morlox's? West Street, Stonehouses
All I've so far

Gules

27-10-2004, 8:11 PM

Any of these yours?
ship area of payment
Barry James Explosion
Barry James Arab Cork
Barry John Queen Charlotte Southampton
Barry Jos Greyhound Belfast
Barry Michael Crescent
Barry Michael Crescent Cork
Barry Robert Sceptre Cork
Barry William Regulus Limerick

Sandra

07-11-2004, 12:24 PM

Would you have Andrew MARTIN believed to have been at sea during the Napoleonic Wars? Many thanks

Gules

10-11-2004, 10:45 AM

Sorry - Have several by the name of Martin but no Andrew as yet.

Di&Trev

11-11-2004, 12:52 AM

This is probably a silly question but is this only Royal Navy or does it cover Merchant Navy as well?
Just in case if you come across a John Talbot Barker............... :)

Gules

11-11-2004, 9:04 PM

Royal Navy only - merchant sailors much more difficult to trace at this period - unless they were part of the crew of a letter of marque or privateer.

Henry14

26-11-2004, 11:35 PM

Do you have any Dodds crew members? I believe he was a gunner, possibly at the Battle of the Nile, and couldnt take part in the Battle of Trafalgar due to deafness from cannon fire.

Gules

27-11-2004, 10:21 PM

Only one so far:

shipareaDoddsJohnPrince of WalesNewcastle upon Tyne

Sydenham

15-01-2005, 9:08 PM

Have you come across Timothy McCarthy? Should have been in the navy 1780s - post Trafalgar.

Thank you!

Quew

08-02-2005, 10:02 AM

:) Hi do you have any 'Quew' names at all on your lists please |help|

idredge

18-06-2005, 7:24 AM

Hi Gules

If and when you get to 1806 could you see if you have a Robert Sim(p)kins he was from Walcot Bath a Mason aged 16 and was in Plymouth 1806. I don't have the name of a Ship only that I have found records of him at Kew but there is no other information as yet. He married in 1817 in Bath, I don't know how long they would have servered in the Navy/Army.

Have you any ideas other than looking through for his discharge papers.

Irene

pejay

17-07-2005, 5:06 PM

hi, - I am trying to find a john twizell, pressganged in northumberland around 1800 think he served on hms victory, but i cannot find any details other than he became a quarter master

hancorn

07-09-2005, 12:22 PM

Do you have a John Smith who was boatswain on HMS Naiad. His wife was Rebecca (nee Hancorn).

Thanks,

Ros Dunnico.

Henry14

29-12-2005, 8:11 PM

Do you know of a ship named HMS Cederic or something similar at the time of the Napoleonic Wars. I am looking for one John Noble who married Harriet Dodds
in Portsmouth 1805.

helenmsim

03-05-2007, 11:17 PM

Do you have George Barnard on the list? He was on the Ardent, Jalouse, Trompeuse, and Helena between 1797 and 1805.
thanx
Helen

Jillychris

04-05-2007, 7:02 AM

Would you see if you have a John Warry/Warey/Warrey or spelt anyway like that.

Thank you very much

Regards
Jill

elldrick

04-05-2007, 2:24 PM

Do you have a Thomas Mantor Master R.N on your list. I don't have the name of a ship I'm afraid.

Thank you
elldrick

e4b06

14-08-2007, 9:35 AM

Can you help with any info on HMS York (not neccessarilry naval) or Henry Bibby (Bibbey) he was born 1786 in liverpool and moved to Plymouth maybe to join up and his marriage cert shows he was a shipman on said HMS York

Thanks Eric B

silicondale

29-08-2007, 9:04 PM

Hi, Gules. I am trying to find out about two brothers, both with distinctive names. One was certainly in the Navy, the other just very probably. First: Augustus Dalby, born 1779in Howden, east Yorkshire, who was promoted to Master on 26/02/1801 (noted in his 1851 obituary that he was one of the youngest Masters ever in the RN). He retired to Saltash, Cornwall where he married in 1812 though may have continued to serve in the Navy until the 1830s.

His brother, Octavius Dalby, born 1784, also left Yorkshire and turns up next in London where he married in 1809 at St.Dunstan's, Stepney.

Either or both may also have served alongside Jasper Boniston (who later became a shipowner in Selby, Yorkshire).

Any help would be appreciated !

haylierose

08-09-2007, 8:26 AM

Do you have a captian robert broardfoot with possible links to the "falls of gary"
or a godharz rose

agness

06-10-2007, 9:29 PM

Have you spotted a William Granville Lobb in your records?
Thanks Agness.

Mutley

06-10-2007, 10:33 PM

The member 'Gules' who posted the look up offer on this forum has not answered requests on this thread since 27-11-2004.

Please do not be disappointed if he does not reply.

agness

06-10-2007, 10:40 PM

Thanks for the concern, Mutley,
Agness.

Toronto

07-10-2007, 2:35 PM

Is there a chance you might have a George THORNBER listed in your records. I have him on the 'Iron Duke' in the late 1800's, and other census records as a naval person into 1901, but I am curious to see if his name appears in your files. He was born 1861 in Golborne, Lancashire.
Kind regards

Mike Morris
Toronto Canada

peter nicholl

07-10-2007, 3:18 PM

Hi Mike
Several points; Mutley's post yesterday pointed out that the original offer may not still be open.
Also, the original offer was for the period around 1795-1810 you may be better off looking in the UK National Archives, Documents on Line at Seamen's Records. You don't say whether or not he was an Officer. If he was a Commissioned Officer he should appear in the Navy List.
Peter

peter nicholl

07-10-2007, 4:03 PM

Hi Mike
If your George Thornber (98582) was born around 1860 in Golborne, Lancashire, then his Service Records are available from TNA Documents on Line at a one off cost of £3.50 Sterling.
Peter

Toronto

08-10-2007, 2:18 PM

Hello Peter,
thank you for taking the time to reply, and my thanks for the information, I shall look into this.
Kind regards

Mike
Mike Morris
Toront Canada

haylierose

21-10-2007, 5:22 AM

Have you any records of a mariner Robert Broadfoot, born Scotland abt 1835, sailed on Sailing ships. Came to the pacific routes when steamships began to run in the Altantic routes. Ship he said he sailed for the falls line on the Falls of Garry, (niminva?) appeared in london census 1881

tribi

04-03-2008, 4:40 PM

Hi
I wonder if you can help me please ?
I have photocopy of a letter sent to one of my ancestors, which begins.........Capt ? (looks like 3) DUDLEY PELHAM of Her Majestys Ship "Ginger Blue ". So far I have been unable to trace this man on any census, nor the name of the ship. The letter was written on headed paper with a picture of St. Marys Church Scarborough published by S W Theakston who I believe worked between 1840-60. Dudley refers to the church as "ours ".

Tribi

Charles Rignall

06-03-2008, 1:35 PM

Hello -

Could you add John Lupton to your list of look-fors? In 1798 he claimed to be a shipwright, but may have gone to sea. He may have died between September 1800 and August 1803.

Thank you for this tremendous effort.

Regards and admiration,

Charlie Rignall
Connecticut

paulamgrd

25-06-2008, 9:55 AM

I have a Geat Grandfather & GG Grandfather as 'master mariners' there is reference to 'The Samuel & The Black Pearl- 1891 but cannot locate them on census records as if they were at sea for many years. There names are 'James Giffard-born Salcombe,1871. 'James Giffard' born 1844 in Brixham,Devon & 'William Giffard' his father no birth date. Married to Ann.

Thank you
Paula Giffard
Southampton

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:14 PM

I must apologise for those who have made requests – I’ve been working on another project and to be honest had forgotten about this list. However I’ve now retired so have time to start answering the backlog.

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:30 PM

Sorry nothing found

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:35 PM

sorry none found

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:43 PM

Have you come across Timothy McCarthy? Should have been in the navy 1780s - post Trafalgar.

Thank you!
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/
Two appaer in the above

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:46 PM

hi, - I am trying to find a john twizell, pressganged in northumberland around 1800 think he served on hms victory, but i cannot find any details other than he became a quarter master
Sorry nothing

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:52 PM

Do you have a John Smith who was boatswain on HMS Naiad. His wife was Rebecca (nee Hancorn).

Thanks,

Ros Dunnico.
Just a case of seraching the musters for that ship see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Gules

22-07-2008, 12:56 PM

p. harrison

24-07-2008, 9:36 AM

He wasn`t a sailor but he was in the 56foot who sailed in the following ships to India in in1805.-Earl Camden,City of London.Later in 1809 they sailed in the Cornwallis,Wyndam and Bheemoolah to Madras.In 1826 they sailed back to England on the Laryton,Kains and Southwouth.Any record of his name on any of the ships?

ssIII

16-08-2008, 11:47 PM

I’ve been transcribing the registers listing sailors, and ship serving on, who sent part of their pay home, 1795 Navy Act, – in many cases this was to relatives – mother, wife sister etc.

Whilst this is an ongoing project I’ve over 5000 names, so if you are missing someone let me know and I’ll check my lists.
An ageing aunt has said that one of her ancestors was a Captain Stuart during this period/Napoleonic war - do you have any information on anyone with that name?

thank you.

Gules

18-08-2008, 2:21 AM

If he was a Royal Navy Captain then yes I'll probably be able to find some information - what was his full name ?

Gules

18-08-2008, 2:22 AM

Sorry records only apply to sailors

marky

20-08-2008, 10:24 AM

Hi, looking for Robert BRISON, served on PEARL 1795/1802, ACASTA, LATONA.
ADM29/15/69.

Thankyou, Marky.

Gules

25-08-2008, 4:32 AM

Sorry - nothing

pejay

29-08-2008, 4:49 PM

Hi Gules, I have been looking for A Thomas Brown believed press ganged about 1798 from Northumberland. Not 100% sure of ship but it may have been HMS Diadem Thanks |wave|

Gules

01-09-2008, 7:50 AM

All I have is - but it is a very common name

Brown Thomas Daedalus 27 Sept 1802 Treasurer Father George Brown 5th Ward Chelsea Hospital e
ADM 26/5 page 35 Brown Thomas Bellerophon
Carnarvon

ADM 26/4 page 224 Brown Thomas Romolus 9 July 1797 Ch,Plymouth Mother Jane No.15 Doges Wesll, Plymouth e DD adm26/2 page 10

pejay

01-09-2008, 1:11 PM

Thanks for looking anyway, yes unfortunately it is a very common name.

p. harrison

02-09-2008, 1:27 PM

I believe an ancestor of mine with the surname Herod/Herad was pressganged from Norfolk [saxthorpe/corpusty]around 1840.Any one of that name on your list?

Gules

08-09-2008, 4:39 AM

Sorry that's far too late for my records - see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
good luck,

A.FOREMAN

09-09-2008, 8:54 AM

Very long shot but have been looking for George Alfred Collcutt b.1857 - Ships steward Lived Liverpool with wife Sarah & 2 children - Died Lagos 1885. would love to know which ship he sailed on & any other information. Here's hoping! A.Foreman

Gules

09-09-2008, 3:19 PM

I've now put the list, a very rough format, Dreamweaver can't handle tables of this size, on line at
1812privateers.org/1609.html (place www. in front of address)
any questions just let me know.

PaulMSawler

04-08-2009, 6:58 PM

Hi I am looking for info on Neil Campbell, b.c.1763 Isle of Mull, Tobermoray, Argyll, married to Janet McGilvray.
He is said to have served under Nelson until 1806, when he went to Canada, PEI.
Paul

Gules

04-08-2009, 7:57 PM

I've now put all that has been done - project halted at the moment - online at 1812privateers.org.uk/adm26.pdf

Stephen Evans

26-09-2009, 6:36 PM

Hi All,

You may find these following sites of some use in your research.

www.nmm.ac.uk/memorials

www.nelsonandhisworld.co.uk

Cheers|cheers|

Stephen Evans

27-09-2009, 5:25 AM

This is for Judy M Regarding Christopher Albert,

Christopher Albert ged 35 born in Prussia
Ship HMS Leviathan
Rank/Rating: Quartermaster

Service Details

HMS Illustrious 24th August to 14th September 1793
Rank/Rating Able Seaman
15th September 1793 to 27th March 1795
Rank/rating Quartergunner

HMS Romulas 28thMarch to 15th September 1795
Rank/Rating: AbleSeaman
1st November 1797 to 7thNovember 1797
Rank/Rating Gunners Mate

HMS Prince George
8th November 1797 to 20th September 1799
Rank/Rating Gunners Mate

HMS Cumberland 21st September 1799 to 1st November 1799
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman
2nd November 1799 to 19th October 1800
Rank/Rating: Quartergunner
20th October 1800 to 20th October 1800
Rank/Rating Quatermasters Mate
21st October to 19th February 1802
Rank/Rating: Coxswain
20th February 1802 to 15th July 1803
Rank/Rating: Quartermaster

More to follow:)

Stephen Evans

27-09-2009, 6:17 AM

HMS Leviathan Ship's pay book number (SB 1416)
16th July 1803 to 21st July 1803
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman

Ship's pay book number (SB 1416)
22nd July 1803 to 13thDecember 1805
Rank/Rating Quartermaster

Ship's pay book number (SB 1416)
14th December 1805 to25th December 1805
Rank/Rating Coxswain

HMS Formidable 26th December 1805 to 26th December 1805
Rank/Rating Coxswain

27th December 1805 to 1st May 1806
Rank/Rating Yeoman of the Powder room

HMS Africa 2nd May 1806 to 31st December 1807
Rank/ Rating: Quartermaster

1st January 1808 to 29th January1808
Rank/Rating: Coxswain

HMS Royal William 30th January 1808 to 15th May 1808
Rank/Rating: Supernumerary

HMS Leveret 16th May 1808 to 28th November 1808
Rank/Rating: Gunner

HMS Sirius 29th November 1808 to 7th November 1809
Rank/Rating Gunner

HMS Royal William 21st February 1809 to 12th April 1809
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman

HMS Mitford 10th May 1809 to 7th February 1815
Rank/Rating: Gunner

HMS Devonshire 8th February 1815 to 1st December 1829
Rank/Rating: Gunner

HMS Cambridge 2nd December 1829 to 23rd December 1835
Rank/Rating: Gunner

Catalogue referance ADM 36/15837
Catalogue referance ADM 29/3-page 315

The National Archives

Cheers

|cheers|

Stephen Evans

27-09-2009, 11:15 AM

Here's an interesting sight for those interested

www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org

Cheers|cheers|

sue1

27-09-2009, 11:26 AM

Do you by any chance have:

George Foster b 1844 Congleton, Astbury, Cheshire
In service from 1860 - 1881
wife Mary Ann Foster (nee Rowland)

He was Royal Marine Light Infantry, Portsmouth (Red)

Thank you for your help.

Sue

Stephen Evans

27-09-2009, 1:00 PM

Sorry outside the Nelson era for me , but try this.

royalmarinesmuseum.co.uk

Splice the Main Brace
|cheers|

Stephen Evans

28-09-2009, 10:45 AM

Hi Judy M,

You might be interested in this,

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Then enter ADM 19 577

Cheers|cheers|

jeffbird

09-04-2010, 12:31 AM

My gggf was William John McMillan (in some records he just calls himself John McMillan). He was serving on Wanderer in the early 1800s and later Chesapeake. Does he come up on your records?
- jeffbird

butterwick

08-08-2010, 7:53 AM

Hi I was looking for John or matthias/matthew butterwick. Any chance you have come across either of them on your lists.

Regards and good luck

Bertie

08-08-2010, 4:41 PM

Gules - the docs. you have put on the website are fantastic!!

Do you have any records for 1811 to 1820 at all? (I note your database goes up to 1810). If not, can you provide the reference of the document(s) at Kew that can be consulted for that period? Thanks

Henry14

09-08-2010, 7:44 AM

Do you have details of any Dodds or Noble sailors on HMS Cerberus?

emmteeyess

27-02-2011, 2:24 PM

Hi
:seeya:
I've located my ggg.grandfather Barnard (Barney or sometimes Bernard) APPLEBY on the ships muster for HMS Orion at the Battle of the Nile, and then on the muster for Gibraltar Hospital.
(I got these from a great cd - 'Battle of the Nile Roll 1798' - available off t'internet.)
He was then discharged from the Hosital to HMS Defence early November 1798, and he joined the Orion on 11 Dec 1797 - I think it says from 'Hospl in Lisbon'.
Have you any details that can fill in round the these dates, please?
I've got details of his application for the Nile clasp on the NGSM (granted) and that he was a Greenwich Pensioner when he died 1857 in Sunderland (aged 85) and plenty of census details - but I'd love to fill in his naval service record.

:cheers2:

Cheers, Michael

bronny

18-04-2011, 1:54 PM

I know this may be the wrong spot to post this question but hope I might get some advice or re-direction.

I've reached a dead end when searching standard records of Richard White (5X great grandfather) but believe him to have been an able seaman (based in Greenwich) in the 1790's. He was a convict send to Australia in 1797 so he may have served up until this date.

Thank you so much if you are able to help.

Marg Kitchen

02-05-2011, 10:44 PM

Hello, and thank you for posting this thread. My name is Marg Kitchen, and I am researching my husband's links to Scotland. The main character in question is John (or William) Cairns, depending on which family history you read. At any rate, there can only be one John/William Cairns who was press ganged at the age of 16 from the shores of either Kinghorn, or across the Firth of Forth at Edinburgh, between 1808 and 1812 (depending on whose birth year you believe.......) Our young 16 year old Cairns had been at college by the sea, was walking with a friend, and presto - press gang! He ended up sailing with Sir James Yeo over to the Napoleonic tussle, then over to the colony of Canada to help repel those pesky American Rebels on Lake Ontario. Here, he was said to have sailed the Lake with Sir James Yeo, and a crew of 400 men, in the Sackett's Harbour attack. Well, that gives me some information that should narrow it down to one lad. In addition, our young Cairns jumped ship once, was caught, punished and put back to work. The second attempt at escape was successful at Prince Edward Peninsula (which is now Prince Edward County, near Belleville, and thence, Kingston, Ontario). The lad became settled, trained as a cooper, and raised a fine family. Unfortunately, we have no knowledge of exactly which ships he was indentured or pressed on, neither do we know his parents in Scotland, presumably they lived in the Kinghorn, Edinburgh area. We do know that they were supposedly wealthy woollen mill owners. If there is any information available in the shipping end of your information, please advise. Otherwise, know that your thread is interesting and informative. Thanks again.
Marg Kitchen

KawakawaNZ

29-12-2011, 5:55 PM

Searching for John LEAF/LEEF in the RN/Napoleonic Wars – sons born 1793 & c1808.

Hi Gules,

I have not had any luck trying to access the information you posted at
http://www.1812privateers.org/1609.html or
http://www.1812privateers.org.uk/adm26.pdf
Should the links still work?

Regards Pete

KawakawaNZ

29-12-2011, 6:54 PM

Sorry my mistake

http://www.1812privateers/adm26.pdf

Appears to work.

Pete

Kerrywood

29-12-2011, 7:00 PM

Hi Pete, and welcome to the BG forums. :seeya:

The home page for the 1812 privateers site is here

http://www.
1812privateers.org/

Good hunting. :smile5:

KawakawaNZ

29-12-2011, 7:01 PM

Have to get this correct. Following link appears to work.

http://www.1812privateers.org/adm26.pdf

RobinC

29-12-2011, 7:03 PM

Could you look up Henry Damiral (another possible spelling is Damerell).

I know he served on the HMS Leopard circa 1803.

KawakawaNZ

29-12-2011, 7:12 PM

I have still not got right! However the second link in the first message I put up is redirecting to the correct place. I must have some typing wrong in the link, but cannot spot it.

RobinC

05-01-2012, 3:57 PM

I guess the original poster is not around any more then.

Jan1954

05-01-2012, 5:11 PM

I guess the original poster is not around any more then.Gules, the original poster, was last on the forum on 9th December. If you send them either a PM or an email as listed in the drop-down box if you click on their name, it could well bring them back to answer the questions that have been raised since then. :smile5: