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patmoore
08-08-2014, 6:08 PM
Does anyone know PLEASE how I can find my Gt.Granfather's record for this.Thanks

gortonboy
09-08-2014, 3:37 AM
hi,,can you post his name and when and where born,,,and any other relevant information....who did he marry? who were his parents? this helps us if we find a record and enables us to crosscheck we have the right man,,,cheers GB.

christanel
09-08-2014, 4:15 AM
Welcome to British-Genealogy patmoore :smile5:

This (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-subject/crimeanwar.htm) is The National Archives research guide to the Crimean War but of course refers to British soldiers and their involvement.

familysearch.org has some information about French records Here (https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/France_Military_Records) and as gortonboy says, give us some information and we can have a look to see what we can find.

Christina

Peter Goodey
09-08-2014, 6:47 AM
I don't think you can expect much from a site called British-Genealogy. However he's something you could start reading

http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defense.gouv.fr/Records-held-by-the-SHD.html

patmoore
09-08-2014, 2:56 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies.Charles Jacob DuBray.b.1819.France somewhere ?His father John Henry maybe spelt different in French.Have not been able to trace anything other than this about him regarding France relationships etc.He came to England just after the Crimean war.Married a Saran Ann Arnold here in 1903 and spent most of his life in Dover.died when he was 105 years old.names Garlist and Guardeo has come up on some English info found on him .Can't be many with same name in Crimean war list.can ..

simmo1
09-08-2014, 8:59 PM
Mods

Wouldn't it be better to move this to the Crimean War section, rather than having it in the Boer War section, as it could be missed or confused?

regards
Robert

christanel
09-08-2014, 9:16 PM
Mods

Wouldn't it be better to move this to the Crimean War section, rather than having it in the Boer War section, as it could be missed or confused?

regards
Robert

Done.:smile5:

Christina

patmoore
10-08-2014, 9:51 AM
I tried thanks gulp

christanel
10-08-2014, 10:36 AM
I tried thanks gulp

Hi.
Robert's message was meant for a Mod :biggrin: Sometimes I miss seeing what is obvious so a gentle hint from an observant member gets me on track!

Christina

patmoore
10-08-2014, 1:54 PM
Hi Christina. re I tried thanks gulp.was for getting into the French site.they are s o,, s o ,,complicated.I gave up Pat,

christanel
11-08-2014, 1:28 AM
Hi Pat

I clicked on Peter's link then googled 'translate this site in to English' and got this (https://translate.google.com.au/#auto/en/)
In Peter's link I then clicked on Status of records and research tools, records available on-line (in french)' and copied and pasted its URL (address thingy) in to the box on google's translate page and followed their instructions. Then my eyes started to glaze over! If you have google chrome it has a translate this page button in the top RH corner from memory. I haven't got it now 'cos it was playing up for me a while back.

Cyndi's List also has links to French sites (some of which are in English!) but I couldn't see any military references so you are stuck with the site Peter linked to.

Just taken a look at the marriage registration of Sarah Ann Arnold and Charles and he is recorded as Jacob Garlist Dubray, just to clarify things a little. Oh and he was a herbalist in 1903 in Dover?
Also, Charles Jacob was born 1819 and married Sarah in 1903 at the age of 84? Do you have this certificate? Charles was married previously? None of this appears to be relevant to finding Crimean war records but you never know. Children's and wife's names from a first marriage may help.
Christina

thewideeyedowl
11-08-2014, 7:34 AM
This may not move things forward, but have you tried Geneanet? Geneanat is an international genealogical database, originally started in 1996 by two French genealogy/computer enthusiasts who could see the potential of the then emerging internet.

I believe that the site operates in several languages - have just been on the English one but have noted a French description in a search engine listing. It carries some advertising so you will have to work out the address from here: en.geneanet.org/first-step/search-your-french-ancestors. Copy and paste that into the address bar, remembering to put http:// at the front. Fingers crossed it will work. When I got there, I checked out French Genealogical Databases and entered the name "Charles DuBray", which prodiced about five hits all from the 1700s, so not your man.

Worth taking a look?

There are also French forums, of course, and I know that a BG member uses them quite a bit but that person is not around at the moment. Possibly run a search for French family history forums (in French, of course!).

One last thought, have you tried the IGI? It won't give you service info, of course, but could help confirm (or disprove) some details. There is a forum here on IGI, so you can find out about it there.

Let us know if you get any leads.

Owl

RosieW
11-08-2014, 6:11 PM
Hi there, I also went on Geneanet (I use it a lot for my French half) and there is someone researching your man (P Turner) and has much the same info as you. I posted a question on the forum to ask about researching French soldiers in the Crimea - they were on the same side for once! - so some one may come up with an answer for further research. I can help with translation, etc.
Have a look at Geneanet and under Search - general search - input Dubray for the surname and Jacob for the first name (there are 1000s of Dubrays) and you will find her. Suggest you contact if you don't know her and pool resources. Many of the Dubrays are from the Paris area. I notice he seems to have had several daughters, Minnie, Rosa, Matilda (from Ancestry) and was perhaps younger than indicated in his death notice.
Can I ask, where did you get the information from about the Crimea? Do you have him in censuses in England, if so, which ones?
I find this quite fascinating and happy to help if I can.

patmoore
12-08-2014, 5:20 PM
Thanks ever one for you efforts appreciated.on 1891 english census he is down as Guardes .1911 jacob. and newspaper article re his death Charles Jacob ,Ancestry .com Charles Guardeo .and marriage as previous mention...so who knows.a lotta searching..,I hopefully might get somewhere....

patmoore
12-08-2014, 5:30 PM
The info re him and the Crimean war ,was from a family member,and also there was a newspaper article re his death the Dover Express 6th March 1925.Stating His age was verified by the French consul who came from Folkstone with two visitors from France who were interested in the survival to such a great age of a fellow countryman.In view of the fact that he was a French Crimean War veteran it is possible that there will be some official recognition of the funeral.....H'm having read this article again I wonder if anything is recorded anywhere !!!!! that may help,.P

crimea1854
12-08-2014, 6:50 PM
There is a member of the British Medals Forum (user name Djedj) who lives in France and has a wealth of knowledge about researching French recipients of the Crimea Medal. You might care to register with the BMF and then send him a PM.

Martin

thewideeyedowl
12-08-2014, 9:27 PM
Have just found this interesting English-language site about the French Crimean army (La Garde Imperiale (1854)): https://sites.google.com/site/frenchcrimeanarmy/home.

Might help with background if we manage to locate DuBray?

Owl

patmoore
13-08-2014, 4:37 PM
Thanks everyone for info P