THOMAS ROBERT BROUGHTON 1ST BN K.R.R.C

[leeanne82]

i am looking for the death notice and a photo of private thomas robert broughton, he was a rifleman in the 1st battalion in the K.R.R.C he was killed in france in ww1 in 1916 as they presume i don't think they found his body according to his service records, i have checked everywhere for a photo, as i live in australia its hard cause he was from the uk, any help would be so greatly appreciated as i was doing this side of the family for my nan as she didn't have a photo of her grandfather, but unfortunately i found her deceased jan 3rd so its been hard and now im more determined than ever to find a photo i have a description of him from his service record but that's it, he was 5'9, 63kgs/140lbs, blue eyes, brown hair, small tattoo dot left forearm, and moles on his back, any help would be awesome and much appreciated

[thewideeyedowl]

Hi Leeanne and a very warm welcome to BritGen.....

I have just run a search for "(Thomas Robert Broughton) AND (King's Royal Rifle Corps) AND photograph" and see that you have been blitzing cyberspace in your quest - its the only way. Good.

I realise that you really want a photo of the man himself (just as I would love to have a photo of the grandfather who is known to me only by name). However, I found this photo of a gravestone inscription when I searched twgpp (it's a war graves project): http://twgpp.org/results.php?sname=Broughton&fname=Thomas+Robert&cemetery=&country=32&force=1&nationality=2. The problem, of course, is that there is no name and the words could be the sentiments of any deeply-grieving mother. Have you seen it?

Also, do look for background on KRRC, because you might get some leads - it can be surprising what leads to what.... The Long Long Trail, http://www.1914-1918.net is a very comprehensive site. Try there for background. And have you entered the name (Thomas Robert Broughton) into the search engine at The National Archives? You won't get a photo but his Medal Index card might come up. Also try the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website for memorial details.

Must swoop off now - got to go to work.

Owl

[leeanne82]

hi i have requested the photo from there it just says t.r broughton and the words are for all fallen soldiers
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/extensions/uploads/0a78a7cc-ff5c-40e9-904d-ff8b08c2ad85.jpg

[christanel]

There is more information the poster is looking for regarding this family.
See Here (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php/81801-broughton-s-around-birmingham-warwickshire)
And Here (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php/81803-PRIVATE-THOMAS-ROBERT-BROUGHTON)

If you can help please post the information on this thread so we can keep track of what has been found.

Christina

[TomBen]

Hi Leeanne,

Pictures of First World War servicemen can be difficult to come by. official photographs taken by the government were published in the early years, De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour for example, but this was only for those killed in the war and even then there wasn't a picture for everyone.

School Rolls of Honour, sometimes had photographs but again these were limited and usually only for officers.

I think your best bet might be the KRRC museum which is part of the Royal Green Jackets Museum:

http://www.rgjmuseum.co.uk/contact.asp

Museums often keep hold of some regimental records which can include official photographs. You might not get an individual picture of Rifleman Broughton but there could be a unit picture.

By Death Notice I assume you mean a death certificate? A version of this is occassionally provided with service records though the content of a WW1 records can vary immensely thanks to the work of the Luftwaffe during WW2... You can order death certificates through the General Register Office:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

I have found him listed on the CWGC website which states he is memorialised on the Thiepval memorial, this does indicate his body was not found:

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/765362/BROUGHTON,%20THOMAS%20ROBERT

Hope this helps in some way.

Regards,

Tom

[thewideeyedowl]

Hi Leeanne

Sorry if the link I gave took you to a more general part of twgpp site. This is what I had found this morning:

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/extensions/uploads/ad37e208-9a97-46d6-9297-56ea5afc3efb.jpg

It came up in my search for Thomas Robert Broughton.

Owl

[gortonboy]

hi,,just wondered if you had his militia record

Thomas Robert

Last name: BROUGHTON



Calculated year of birth: 1877

Parish of birth: Birmingham

Town of birth: Birmingham

County of birth: Warwickshire

Age at attestation: 21 years 6 months

Attestation date: 20 June 1898

Attestation corps: 5TH R WAR R

Attestation soldier number: 6800

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps: Royal Warwickshire Regiment - 6th Foot

[thewideeyedowl]

Hi again, Leeanne

I ran an internet search (bing, cos I'm a bit anti-Google!) and the page linked to on The War Graves Photographic Project came up. Have just tried the link in my earlier post and it worked just fine. Try it again. Prob is that it does not give the provenance of the photo, but click around the site to see if it can help you or contact them direct about it.

You can upload a photo to a forum post by selecting the little icon that shows a tree in a frame in the horizontal list immediately above the 'post' frame. It is the same procedure as attaching a photo to an email (and I'm sure you must have done that many times?).

GOONS is the Guild Of One Name Studies. Do a search for it. Address is something like www.onename.org, BUT you must check - tapping this out at speed, no time to check it myself. Sorry. As you had posted 'One Name' I had assumed you knew about this very useful and helpful organisation.

Owl

[leeanne82]

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/extensions/uploads/4d9cce1c-cdf9-4c98-b376-4685d854f5a0.jpg
think i may have found him not 100% sure he is about 18 in this pic

[leeanne82]

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/extensions/uploads/459cbcfd-fbb0-47b2-97b7-e47e1a8a9d9c.jpg
this is one daughter emily ellen

[leeanne82]

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/extensions/uploads/e1830a68-4adf-4f7b-9741-fb43e3f94833.jpg
this is the other daughter ellen elizabeth

[leeanne82]

the young guy in the picture has big ears, blue eyes, what looks like brown hair and bushy eyebrows, ellen has blue eyes, brown hair, bushy eye brows, her sister emily has brown hair, blue/brown eyes, and some mouth part as the young guy

[TomBen]

Hi Leeanne, the chap in the beret is not wearing a KRRC cap badge.

That's not to say it's definitely not Rifleman Broughton, he could have transferred units during service but it is something to bear in mind.

The cap badge is the Royal Warwickshire Regiment I think.

Regards,

Tom

[leeanne82]

He was in the royal warwickshire regiment when he was 18

[TomBen]

Well that explains that!

:)

Tom

[thewideeyedowl]

Hi again, Leeanne

Sorry to put a damper on the celebrations but the Thomas Robert Boughton you say you are searching for was born in 1877. He would have been 18 in 1895. No way was this photo taken in 1895. It looks to date, perhaps, from WW2. Where did you get it from? You need to do a lot more checking.

Owl

[lewisbeels]

Google Warwickshire Regiment Images and you can see the whole picture with the following caption

Horror: The 1st Battalion Warwickshire Regiment on board their troopship bound for the Korean War.

[leeanne82]

yeah i have realized its not him when i googled the year of the Korean war, and in regard to death notices the ones in the paper back then, i haven't tried looking again for a fair while until now as i hit a brick wall

[leeanne82]

i did a bing search that photo didn't come up for me

[leeanne82]

cant find this photo

[Squaredancer]

If you put the caption mentioned by lewisbeels: "Horror: The 1st Battalion Warwickshire Regiment on board their troopship bound for the Korean War." into a Bing Images (or Google Images) search the first picture that comes up appears to be the one from which the photo you posted (post 9) was taken.

[leeanne82]

still no luck only found service records which have a description of him hoping to go to the 100th anniversary of the war ending in 2018 and ill be going to the uk so i will look there hoping more luck