Loveridge

[bebejax]

I am new to this site. I saw an entry re Loveridge family whilst researching my family history. I think I may be related to the Loveridge family mentioned in the 1871 and 1881 census. My great grandmother was Sarah Loveridge who belonged to a travelling family who performed acrobatics in fairs around the Glos-mid and south Wales areas. My Sarah Loveridge was born around 1867 and married a Thomas Lynn around 1887 in Swansea South Wales. She still travelled when married as my grandmother Susan Ellen Lynn was born in a caravan in Aberdare South Wales in 1895. My great Uncle was George Lynn who performed as an acrobat. He went to America and came back to perform as a member of an acrobatic trio in the Empire theatre Swansea around 1932-33.

Does anyone out there know anything about these Loveridges/Lynn's please??? I have come to a full stop and cannot trace anything about sarah's birth. Any help would be much appreciated.

[almach]

Hi bebejax,

Do you think these folk are your ancestors?

1911, 92 Carmarthen Road Swansea, RG14; Piece: 32788; Schedule Number: 200

Thomas Lynn 49, Dock Labourer, Milford Pembroke
Sarah Lynn 47, Coleford, Gloucestershire
Emanuel Lynn 18, Swansea, Engine Cleaner
Susan Lynn 15, Aberdare
Cissey Lynn 11, Pontypridd, Glamorgan
George Lynn 9, Pontypridd, Glamorgan
Wester Lynn 6, Pontypridd, Glamorgan

[christanel]

Welcome to Brit-Gen

First of all here is the marriage registration for Thomas and Sarah from FreeBMD

Marriages Sep 1/4 1887

Sarah Ann Loveridge
Thomas Henry Lynn
Registration district Swansea
vol 11a page 933

1911 Census RG14 piece 32788 schedule 200
92 Carmarthin Road Swansea.
Thomas Lynn 49 Dock labourer born Milford Pembrokeshire
Sarah wife 47 born Coleford Gloucestershire
Emanuel son 18 Swansea Glamorgan
Susan 15 Aberdre Glamorgan
Cissey 11 Pontypridd Glamorgan
George 9 Pontycymmer Glamorgan
Hester 6 Swansea Glamorgan

The say married 24 years. There are 12 children born of this marriage, 5 have died, 7 still living, so there are two others not at home on this census.

Beat me to it almach :biggrin:

[almach]

If the above is your Sarah, this could be her in 1871, Coleford is in the Forest of Dean.

1871, Hartlebury, Worcestershire. RG10; Piece: 3068; Folio: 76; Page: 28

Henry Loverige [sic] 39, Travelling Tinker, Greenhill, Wiltshire
Harriet Loverige 33, Saford, Warwickshire
William Loverige 15, Ross, Herefordshire
Mary Loverige 12, Forest of Dean
Treenut Loverige 8, Forest of Dean
Jane Loverige 5, Forest of Dean
Sarah Loverige 2, Forest of Dean

[almach]

1881, Woolhope, Herefordshire, RG11; Piece: 2583; Folio: 110; Page: 13

Henry Loverige 58, Travelling Tinker, Marlborough Wiltshire
Harriett Loverige 43, Salford Lancashire
William Loverige 25, Tinker, Peterstone Hereford
Tranett Loverige 18, Little Dean, Gloucester
Sarah Loverige 15, Woodside, Gloucestershire
Jane Loverige 12, Smethwick, Warwick
Paticence Loverige 8, Parks??? End, Gloucester
Edwin Loverige 3, Hope Mansell, Hereford
Charlotte Loverige 1, Woolhope, Hereford

[almach]

bebejax,

Just wondering if you have any other information you can share with us? Do you have any of Sarah's siblings' names? I've helped a fair few Romany ancestors' in the past and believe me they are never easy to trace! Quite often they change first names, age, and places of birth from one census to another, many have nick names which they sometimes use on official records. Makes for complicated searching but at the same time a challenge and interesting.

If you can find any more info, maybe from older relatives, it will help in the search. Rest assured, folks here will try their best to help.

[almach]

A possible 1871, Hubberston Haverfordwest, all children born Hakin, Pembroke, RG10; Piece: 5523; Folio: 26; Page: 7

George Lynn 45, Chelsea Pensioner, London Poplar
Ellen Lynn 40, Mariner's wife, Haverfordwest, Pembroke
William George Henry Edwin Lynn 10
Arthur Charles Lynn 7
Thomas Henry Lynn 4
James Lovel Lynn 2
Susan Lynn 6 Months

[almach]

1881, 48 Brynmelin St, Swansea. RG11; Piece: 5360; Folio: 103; Page: 47

Ellen Lynn 40, married, Laundress, Haverfordwest
Thomas Lynn 16, General Labourer, Milford
James L. Lynn 14, Milford
Susan Lynn 12, Milford
Albert Lynn 7, Swansea

Doesn't appear the Lynn's were Romanies.

[almach]

1861, Hubberston, Pembrokeshire, RG9; Piece: 4161; Folio: 4; Page: 2;

George Lynn 33, Seaman, Surrey London
Ellen Lynn 30,Haverfordwest
William G Lynn 1, Hakin
Susanah Davies 15, sister in law, Hubberston

[almach]

A George Lynn died Jul - Sept 1875, Swansea, age 49, 11a/359

[almach]

Marriages Dec qrt 1857, Haverfordwest, 11a/1234. George Lynn/Ellen Davies

[almach]

Can go sideways, forwards, backwards with Lynn/Davies. But to take the Loveridges in any direction with certainty, we need more info.

Maybe your relatives can provide info regarding your grandmother's siblings, but hopefully they can go further back with names.

Otherwise you will need to buy some certificates.

[bebejax]

Thanks for interest Almach. Yes they are my family. Susan Lynn was my grandmother and george Lynn was an acrobat. He went to America, joined an acrobatic trio, and performed in the Empire Theater in Swansea sometime during 1932/33. I am trying to find out if I can find a billboard relating to this time. I have not had much luck but I am trawling through the local paper of the time to try and find something about his trio. Any advice re theaters or sailing to America in the 20's 30's would be very helpful if anyone can help??. Thanks.

[bebejax]

Almach, this family looks more like my family as you say Coleford is in forest of Dean and my great grandmother as far as I can find out was born in Coleford. Thanks sooo much for help.

[janbooth]

Hi bebejax and welcome to the Forum. Ah, the LOVERIDGE surname brings back many happy but frustrating memories from our previous research into that name. Findmypast (a pay per view site) has the actual parish register marriage image of Sarah's marriage to Thomas Henry LYNN which gives both their father's names and professions. I'm afraid I cannot give you any details because FMP do not allow you to do this as part of their conditions, but for about £6 (cheaper than a marriage certificate) you can look at the details for yourself and still have credits left over for any other searches you may wish to undertake.

From past experience I have found it very difficult to trace these families on census records and the majority of finds have come from marriage or baptismal records. But from the FMP record, I can tell you that the LOVERIDGE father's name on the family that almach found in the 1871 and 1881 census records is not the same as on Sarah's marriage record - mind you I would not rule anything out with Romany families as names and ages seem to vary considerably for the same person!

But looking through the other FMP records, there are two male LOVERIDGE marriages with the same father as shown on Sarah's marriage record, one in 1904 at Aberdare and the other in 1898 at Aberaman, the latter actual record having a slightly different surname to that of his Banns record. Looking at these records may give you an idea of the families movements between 1887 and 1904.

Will do a bit more searching.

Janet

[janbooth]

Bingo! Using the above information, this looks like the family in the 1891 census of Aberdare, Glamorgan (RG12/4446, folio 85, page 34):

Field behind Davies Street
(in caravan)

Reuben LOVERIDGE Head Mar 45 Hawker of Fancy Goods Gloster Coleford
Elizabeth do Wife Mar 45 do do
Reuben do Son S 25 Hawker of Fancy Goods do do
John do Son 12 Lancashire Tinsley
Mark do Son 10 Cheshire Birkenhead
Elijah do Son 8 Warwick Birmingham
Priscilla do Daur 14 Cheshire Birkenhead
Thomas do Son 2 Glamorgan Rhondda Valley

Janet

[janbooth]

From Ancestry's Birmingham parish Registers:

19 March 1882 at St James Handsworth Elijah son of Reuben & Elizabeth LOVERIDGE, Queens Head Lane, Tinman, baptised

Reuben (spelled Ruben), wife Elizabeth and family are in the 1901 census of Pontypridd (RG13/4998, folio 52, page 26) and are still there in 1911.

Could this be Reuben in the 1851 census of Cheltenham (HO107/1973, folio 502, pages 25/26):

67 Stanhope Street

William LOVERIDGE Head Mar 65 Tinman Warwickshire Charington
Rosa do Wife Mar 65 Tin Hawker NK
Henry do Son Un 19 Tinman Oxfordshire Oxford
Letitia do Daur Un 16 At home Glostershire Forest of Dean
Reuben do Son 13 do do do
Mary Ann do Daur 10 do do Newent
Patience do Daur 6 do Monmouthshire Monmouth

and could this perhaps be William's marriage (source Gloucestershire FHS Marriage Index):

12 July 1830 at Withington William LOVERIDGE, widower, & Rosine HUNT, widow, by banns

Janet

[almach]

I did see those folks last night ,Jan, but from memory I couldn't see them before 1891! I found them I think - again from memory - in 1891 and 1901. Really need to find them with Sarah in 1881 and 1871. Let's hope you have more luck, I have to go out now, I'll pop by later and see what's been found. BTW, I also saw the marriage on FMP and as you say Reuben and Co look good.

[bebejax]

Janet, Thanks for info. I have seen Sarah Loveridge's marriage cert and Ruebne is stated as her father cert but I am confused now as Sarah does not appear in Reuben's family??? Tho Sarah would have been married in 1891. I shall have to see where Reuben was from 1851 to 1891??? Wow, love this site sooo much info which I thought I would never find.
Thanks for all the help.

[almach]

It's all tying together now, bebejax, I have found the Loveridge family in 1871 and WITH SARAH.

Address is: encampment in caravan on common, Norton Canes, Staffordshire. RG10; Piece: 2926; Folio: 65; Page: 45

Although indexed as SOVERETT, I'm convinced it's them. The original actually looks like Loverett, which will be the enumerators 'best guess' at the pronunciation used, I very much doubt that Reuben could read or write (many folks couldn't back then).

Reuben Soverett 38, Tinker, Coleford
Elizabeth Soverett 28, Perkine?? Gloucester
Susan Soverett 9, Perkine
Mary Soverett 8, Perkine
Reuben Soverett 7, Lydney Gloucestershire
Rosy Soverett 5, Wolverhampton
Sarah Soverett 3, Norton Staffordshire

There's other caravans on the encampment, one of which is occupied by another Loveridge/Soverett family - could be Reuben's brother, I'll post details in a mo.

Alma

[almach]

Here's the other family of Loveridges, in the next caravan to Reuben and family. A correction has been made to Cornelius name on the Ancestry index, by a member who has suggested he should be Cornelius Loveridge. So I think we are definitely onto the right folks. Cornelius is entered as born UK, but the above mentioned member also submitted a place of birth: Weston Under Penyard, Herefordshire, England.

Piece: 2926; Folio: 64; Page: 44
Cornelius Soveritt 30, Basketmaker, UK
Mary Soveritt 29, Wales
James Soveritt 13, UK
Henry Soverett 1, Hay Cosk Green Warwickshire
Susan Soverett 15, Hay Cosk Green Warwickshire
Mary Soverett 11, Worcestershire
Louisa Soverett 7, Walsall
Eliza Soverett 5, Walsall

[almach]

It is possible Henry at post #4, could be another brother, see #17.

[almach]

This is the baptism for Cornelius, therefore either he and Reuben were not brothers, or, the 1851 census posted @ #17 is the wrong Reuben.

Cornelius Loveridge, 22 January 1832 Weston-under-Penyard, Hereford, England, parents: James and Susan

See what I mean about the Romanies being difficult to trace - how their ages etc change from one record to another!

[almach]

There's baptisms online for some of Cornelius and Mary's children, not sure if you want them?

I'll try to find more about Reuben.

[almach]

Priscilla Loveridge, baptised 15 Oct 1878, Bebington, Chester, parents: Reuben and Elizabeth.

Also John Loveridge was baptised same place/date.

[almach]

In 1911 Reuben was living in a house.

9, James Place, Llantrisant, Glamorgan. Reuben and Elizabeth had had 21 children, 13 still alive, 8 had died.

Reuben Loveridge, 73, Tin Plate worker, Gloucester
E Loveridge, 68, Gloucester
Manuel Loveridge, 20, Wood Peg Maker, Aberaman???

[almach]

1901, RG13; Piece: 4998; Folio: 52; Page: 26. In a house, I think it says 28, Thurston Rd, Eglwysilan, Pontypridd

Ruben Loveridge 55, Hawker, Coleford
Elizabeth Loveridge 53, Parkim
Tom Loveridge 13, Glamorganshire
Manny Loveridge 9, Glamorganshire
Edwin Loveridge 15, Glamorganshire
Ruben Loveridge 35, Blakeney
Harry Loveridge 18, Cardiff

[janbooth]

Well found Alma!! The 1871 census certainly looks to be Reuben and family. According to my Gloucestershire FHS Baptismal Index 1813-37, there are no LOVERIDGE (or variants) baptised at Coleford. However, I'll throw this into the mix given the 1851 census record in post 17: Born 19 Jan bap 26 January 1823 at Preston near Cirencester Eliza LOVERIDGE daughter of William & Janette, Tinman & Brazier, Witney Oxfordshire and another baptised 3 May 1829 at Kempsford St Mary Henry LOVERIDGE son of William & Trinette, Traveller, 29 April 1827 at Southrop St Peter James LOVERIDGE son of William & Trainet, Hawker, Great Wolford Warwickshire. There is also a Charlotte LOVERIDGE baptised at Kempsford on 5 July 1835, parents James & Trinett who are most probably the same parents as above.

There are other LOVERIDGE families who are Hawkers, etc having children baptised in Gloucestershire at this time, namely a Henry & Esther who seem to have Wheatley, Oxfordshire connection, a Joseph & Eleanor and a James & Susan - could this latter couple be the parents of Cornelius, children Eliza 1822 at Bibury, William 1826 at Westbury, Eleanor 1837 at Newent.

Have to go out now, but will investigate further when I get back.

Janet

[janbooth]

This looks as if it could be the marriage of Eleanor LOVERIDGE daughter of James & Susan. The marriage took place at Bosbury, Hereford in 1855. She was aged 18 and married a John BIRCH according to Ancestry's Select Marriages list. So it looks as if there could be a definite Gloucestershire/Herefordshire connection and perhaps James & William LOVERIDGE were related in some way?? There is also a definite Oxfordshire connection. Re my previous post, source Oxfordshire FHS Marriage Index:

26 February 1821 at Cuddesdon James LOVERIDGE of Wheatley & Susan LOVERIDGE of Wheatley
17 February 1801 at Banbury Joseph LOVERIDGE, Hawker, & Eleanor DAVIS of Wolford, Warwickshire
13 March 1820 at Shipton under Wychwood William LOVERIDGE of Ramsden & Trainet DAVIS of Ramsden

So the latter couple of William & Trainet look to be the couple who are having children in Gloucestershire in my post above. Their son Henry is married to a Harriet and are in the 1871 census of Trevethin, Pontypool with their family so are perhaps unlikely to be directly connected to your Reuben. Although having said that, the Henry LOVERIDGE that Alma found in posts 4 & 5 have a daughter named Tranett (or variations of).

Cornelius LOVERIDGE son of James & Susan looks to have married Mary Ann MARSHALL on 31 July 1854 at Upton on Severn, Worcestershire.

Going back to Reuben LOVERIDGE and his wife Elizabeth, I think her place of birth could be Parkend which is part of the Forest of Dean and only 3 miles from Coleford. The only marriage I can find for a Reuben LOVERIDGE so far is a registration in the June qtr 1864 at Westbury on Severn reg district.

I wonder if it might be worth your while to join the Forest of Dean website, which is free, to enable you to search for any LOVERIDGE baptisms or marriages in the area. Certain parishes within Herefordshire are also included so you may just be able to tie up a few loose strands and connect some LOVERIDGE families.

I hope I haven't confused the issue too much for you.

Janet

[almach]

There are a couple of family tree on Ancestry which seem to include all folks mentioned on this thread. They look like well researched trees and one has photographs of Loveridge's and a marriage cert for Cornelius/Mary Ann Marshall. They suggest Reuben's mother was Rosanna Jeffs, father William Loveride, but nothing to back this up.

It is possible from the trees mentioned above to work out the family relationship between Cornelius and Reuben (the two living next to each other in 1871), I did work out the relationship earlier but I've forgotten what it was, and now don't have sufficient time to look, I think they were either cousins or 2nd cousins. I'll look at the tree later.

[almach]

Here's details from one of the Ancestry trees.

Cornelius (1833), Weston under Penyar, son of James (1799 - 1839) born Stanford in the Vale, Berks and Susan Loveridge born 1802, Kingham Oxfordshire, died 1870 London. Susan and James married 26 Feb 1821, Oxfordshire.

Reuben Loveridge (1837), Forest of Dean, son of William (1796) Cherrington Warwickshire and Rosanna Jeffs (1796), no record for marriage, or baptism for Rosanna.

William and James were the sons of James Loveridge (1763 - 1840), Cuddeston Oxon/oakley Bucks? and Mary Mills who married 1798, St Marys Aylesbury Bucks.

If you subscribe to Ancestry it could be worthwhile for you to contact the above mentioned tree owner. If you aren't a member of Ancestry you can gain access to the database via your local library, however I am unsure whether family trees can be viewed via the Ancestry library edition, if not, another option is Mundia (Google), where I believe you have to join, at no cost, and can then view Ancestry's public trees.

[janbooth]

Those Trees would fit in very well with the information we have previously found, wouldn't they Alma. The marriage I found for William LOVERIDGE in 1830 stated that both he and his wife Rosine HUNT were widowed at the time of their marriage. This could perhaps be the baptism of one of the children from Rosine/Rosanna's previous marriage (source Gloucs FHS Baptismal Index 1813-37):

3 December 1826 at Southrop St Peter Susan HUNT daughter of Jonathan & Rosanna, Licensed Hawker, Coventry

Although having said that, I have just found a marriage on Ancestry's Select Marriages of a William LOVERAGE & Rosanna JEFFS at Stratford on Avon on 24 December 1820 which is presumably the marriage that the owner of the Ancestry Tree has already found - so which marriage is the correct one or could this be William's first marriage given that he was shown as a widower on his marriage at Withington in 1830.

Janet

[janbooth]

The only gripe I have with the Ancestry Tree that states that William LOVERIDGE father of Reuben is the son of James & Mary who married in 1798 is that William's birth date in the 1851 census is shown as c1786, a full 12 years before the marriage of James & Mary LOVERIDGE. I know ages for Romanies in census records often vary so perhaps that is the explanation. However, I can find no baptism at Cherington for William LOVERIDGE during the period 1785-1802 using Ancestry's Warwickshire PR images. Oh well, over to bebejax now for comments on what we have found.

Janet

[almach]

Oh well, over to bebejax now for comments on what we have found.

I agree, Janet.

bebejax, the tree owner on Ancestry has researched the same ancestry as yours, so definitely worth you contacting him/her.........must be one of your cousins/distant cousins.

[bebejax]

apologies for not being here for a bit, my tower computer went down. got myself a laptop so back on track. Thanks for all info.I am a bit confused tho with 1871 census as this Sarah Loveridge was not born in coleford?? Which site do you go on for parish records and what is FMP site?? I would like to think that my family is related to the Reuben/Cornelius family as they are around thee area that my great grandmother Sarah was born in and they are all hawkers who would have travelled around. I don't have any family around from this branch of my family as my last aunt died last year. the only info I have is from my mum and aunty who remembered great granddad Tom and great grandmother Sarah. They divorced sometime in the 20's with my Great granddad tom living with my grandmother Susan Ellen and Gran Sarah living with her daughter Hester both in Swansea.

I don't suppose there can be any real certainty that I have the right family is there do you think?? I am going to go on the forest of Dean site and see what I can find there. Thanks again for all your help. Are any of you related to the Loverige's??

[geneius]

Which site do you go on for parish records

familysearch.org


what is FMP site

Subscription site findmypast.co.uk

When using google search engoine add the word romany after the name you will be surprised what comes up!!!

[janbooth]

Don't get too hung up on places of birth in census records especially with Romany families. The 1871 census record would have been based on information from Sarah's parents. Latter census records would have been based on where Sarah thought she was born and if the family moved back to the Coleford area when she was relatively young, as far as she was concerned that would have been her place of birth.

Janet

[bebejax]

Went on to Forest of Dean site and found birth of Reuben Loveridge 1839 in Cherrington, warks. I think this is my Reuben tho I couldn't find any marriage records for Reuben and Elizabeth. Reuben born in 1839 would fit in with the 1851 census but I can't find a census that ties Sarah with Rueben and Elizabeth??? I am inclined to accept that the Soverett family in the 1871 census is my Sarah's family. Thanks for all your help.

[janbooth]

That birth/baptismal record for Reuben at Cherington would fit in very well with his father William's reputed place of birth wouldn't it. I think the 1871 census record that Alma found is almost certainly your family. Ancestry appear to have transcribed the L as an S - if you look at Reuben jnr's birthplace it is shown as Lydney and that L is almost identical to the capital letter of the surname, so I think the Enumerator misheard the surname as LOVERETT and this family has a daughter Sarah of the correct age to be your Sarah. The family obviously travelled around the UK and Reuben & Elizabeth do appear to have had a son Elijah baptised at Handsworth, Staffs in 1882 according to Ancestry, so perhaps Staffordshire was one of the counties they visited periodically and therefore Sarah could easily have been born there. Unfortunately, the family do not seem to be on the 1881 census. Maybe they were en route from Cheshire to Staffordshire when the census was taken.

Janet

[susanna1212]

Wow! I'm related to the Loveridge line (lines) as well. We may be from two totally different families, but I am related to William Loveridge b. 1660 in Wool, Dorset and died in 1696 in Perth Amboy, New Jersey, U.S.A.

[bebejax]

Hi it's bebejax. I haven't been on here for a while I've tried doing some more research. I have found a few more relatives through the Loveridge line, it sure is a large spread out family. I've found out a bit more of my Lynn relatives. I have an uncle, William Lynn born 1911. He is Sarah Loveridge's youngest son and he inherited the acrobatic talent on his mother's side. He became a member of an acrobatic troupe, The Rapid Four. There is footage of him on British Pathe News website. I would like to find out more about him but I have been unable to as yet. I wonder if there are some relatives out there on the British Genealogy site?? I would love to hear from you if there are.

[Robert1953]

Hi,
I'm new to this site and process. Also not sure that this query has been submitted correctly. However:
I'm trying to trace my family tree and believe my descendants are William Loveridge born 1785 Chacombe, Northamptonshire - married to Elizabeth Berry born 1785 Chipping Warden, Northamptonshire, with children: Sarah b.1809, William b.1810, Thomas b.1817, Michael b 1818, Benjamin 1820, Susannah b.1826. If I am right so far I am struggling to identify parents and descendants of William and Elizabeth. There is a possibility that William's father may be William Loveridge born 1785 at Mathon,Worcester, but I can't prove this. Can anyone offer any expanding views, help or direction.
Regards,
Robert1953

[southistle]

Is your Loveridge family the one living in Thenford, Northamptonshire in the 1841. 1851 census?

[geneius]

Hello Robert 1953

Have you traced from yourself back to this family in post #42?

Can you give us a Census reference number to pick up on your research

[janbooth]

I can confirm the marriage of your William LOVERIDGE, of Chacombe, & Elizabeth BERRY of the parish at Chipping Warden on 15 June 1806 (source Northamptonshire Marriage Index 1700-1837). However, this only means that William was resident at Chacombe and Elizabeth at Chipping Warden at the time of their marriage not that they were necessarily born there.

However, according to the 1851 census of Thenford (HO107/1735, folio 342, page 2), William was born c1785 at Thenford and Elizabeth c1786 at Chipping Warden. Northamptonshire Baptismal Index shows a baptism at Thenford on 9 January 1785 (born 3 January) for a William son of William & Rose LOVERIDGE and a possible sibling James baptised at Heyford, Northants on 11 December 1781 son of William & Ros-amond LOVERIDGE, Travellers. The same source shows a baptism at Chipping Warden on 28 August 1785 of an Elizabeth daughter of Thomas & Sarah BERRY. Siblings William baptised 30 September 1787, Susanna 10 April 1789, John 7 November 1790, Alice 25 November 1792, Samuel 12 October 1794 and Thomas 19 March 1797.

According to the Northamptonshire Marriage Index 1700-1837, Thomas BERRY married Sarah FARMER at Chipping Warden on 4 May 1785, both being of the parish and William LOVERAGE, of the parish, a soldier in the Oxford Militia, married Rosamond SMITH, of the parish, spinster, at Northampton All Saints on 6 March 1780.

Hope this helps - lovely to be back searching for different LOVERIDGE clans!

Janet

[geneius]

If you google & books . google William LOVERIDGE romany Northamptonshire, quite a bit comes up on him & Northampton romany

Pat Loveriedge has written about the family The Family Tree of William and Margaret Loveridge from 1750 available through Romany & Traveller Family History Society


Hope this helps - lovely to be back searching for different LOVERIDGE clans!


If this is not the same LOVERIDGE family as the original post, saves reading 5 pages & to avoid confusion maybe it needs moving by a mod to a thread of its own! :wink:

[Robert1953]

Hi Southistle,
Thank you for your interest. Yes, that is my family. I'm fairly confident back to William Loveridge died in Thenford 1861, born at Chacombe in 1785, I believe he married Elizabeth Berry born 1785 Chipping Warden. I'm trying to find proof prior to that on William Loveridge and his descendants linearly or laterally.
Regards
Bob

[Robert1953]

Hi Geneius,
Thanks for your interest. I replied as follows to post 43:
Yes, that is my family. I'm fairly confident back to William Loveridge died in Thenford 1861, born at Chacombe in 1785, I believe he married Elizabeth Berry born 1785 Chipping Warden. I'm trying to find proof prior to that on William Loveridge and his descendants linearly or laterally.
Census info to meet your needs:
1841 census - William Loveridge, male age 52 born abt 1789, living Thenford, Kings Sutton hundred, Northamptonshire with wife Elizabeth (Berry) age 52 and other family William Loveridge age 28, Benjamin Loveridge age 22 and Rachel Loveridge age 12. William senior, age 66, living as a pauper at Thenford in the 1851 census with Elizabeth.
I believe William and Elizabeth had another son Thomas living in Laverstock, Alderbury, Wiltshire and born Thenford 1817 as per 1881 census, I believe he was married to Harriett Rees born 1819 Gloucestershire.

Regards
Bob

[Robert1953]

Hi Janet,
Thank you so much for this. Some of it confirms my tentative views re William marrying Elizabeth Berry etc but the comments about Williams parents are a big breakthrough for me, also the military service info is a new line. A great help for a fresh start. As I'm new to this is there any thought pattern I should apply or a logical route I should follow. Am i trying to reinvent the wheel or could this already have been done by others? I thought it would be easy as Loveridge is not a common name in my location, but as you get into the west midland's and south west of England they seem to be around every corner and always on the move!!
Thank you once again.
Bob

[janbooth]

Hi again Bob,

Not sure being logical helps very much with Romany or Travelling families. Never discount anything until you find further proof would be my motto as regards the LOVERIDGE clans and there are so many different spellings of just one surname!!

Have found another possible son for William & Rose LOVERIDGE, namely Benjamin baptised 9 May (born 6 May) 1790 at Thenford son of William & Rose LOVERIDGE.

Children of William & Elizabeth on the Baptismal Index 1751-1812 are:

Born 11th baptised 15 March 1807 at Thenford Ann daughter of William & Elizabeth LOVERIDGE
Born 20 baptised 23 April 1808 at Thenford Sarah daughter of William & Elizabeth LOVERIDGE
Born 15 baptised 17 December 1809 at Thenford William son of William & Elizabeth LOVERIDGE
17 May 1812 at Thenford Mary daughter of William & Elizabeth LOVERIDGE

Burial at Thenford on 24 July 1808 of a William LOVERIDGE (Burial Index 1751-1812)

Hope this helps further

Janet

[geneius]

Hello Bob


From what I learnt form Romany researching, you need to look to see who the family travelled with and where they were...they tended to have a 'circuit' over the census years, the males tended in their late teens to adopt their mothers maiden name

I would look at others you find them with in the census for clues, there was quite a bit of intermarrying