Parish register - baptism and burial

[Megan Roberts]

I believe that the extract below shows the baptism and burial of the same baby.

The entry at the top says "Elizabeth the daughter of John Gambold was baptised the 30th day of May 1688", whilst the last entry says "Elizabeth ye daughter of John Gambold ***** *** buried ye 19th day of ***** 1688".

Any help with the blanks much appreciated.

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[gasser]

Can't make out the rest ...... was buried 19th day of 'September' 1688

[pennydog]

I cannot decypher the first word but I think the date could say 19th Jan of year 1688

[fullscott]

"buried the 19th day of September 1688"

7ber = sept (French for 7)

I think!
Jane

[Megan Roberts]

I at first though it January, but as it is after the baptism entry for May 1688, I've looked again at it and compared it to other entries and so think that the word after "19th" is "day of", rather than the name of the month.

Thanks for your thoughts.

This parish register is doing my head in -

(a) because it is in the most untidy form possible;
(b) the handwriting is worthy of a spider overdosing on an illegal high; and
(c) it shifts, from Latin to English and back again without any apparent reason.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Megan Roberts]

"buried the 19th day of September 1688"

7ber = sept (French for 7)



Oh wow - well spotted! thanks

[arthurk]

Another vote for September. (Pedantically, it's actually from the Latin for seven (septem), but that is also the root of the French sept.)

The word after Gambold looks to me like g--t, possibly with a colon afterwards to indicate an abbreviation. The second letter could be "e" (most of those on the page are like this, but a few aren't), but some o's are more or less identical (as in John). The third letter doesn't look like any others on the page to me.

The most likely word/abbreviation based on those letters is probably "gent" (gentleman), but I'd ideally want to see if there's anything similar on nearby pages which might help with the interpretation.

Arthur

[Megan Roberts]

The most likely word/abbreviation based on those letters is probably "gent" (gentleman), but I'd ideally want to see if there's anything similar on nearby pages which might help with the interpretation.



Here is the double page spread - the entries above are from the top of the right hand page:

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[arthurk]

There's another entry with "gent" a bit lower down the same page - John son of Harrey Davies (?) on 14 Oct ("8ber") 1688. And at certain levels of magnification the Gambold one looks more like "gent" to me than it did originally, so I'm now pretty confident that that's what it is.

Arthur

[tinkingumble]

You may find this helpful http://www.jaydax.co.uk/genlinks/translatingsecretaryhand.htm There is also a neat booklet about 'Secretary Hand' originally published by the Berkshire Record Office (where I bought my copy many many years ago). A quick Google found it being sold in places as diverse as the Devon Record Office & inevitably amazon!