Gossage family from Kings Norton

[michellemcintosh3]

Hi I am looking for information on John Gossage b c 1812 m Hannah Crathorne in 1833, their son Eli Ruben m Hannah Hall in 1853. Hannah left Eli and came to Australia in 1883. I know that Eli died in London in 1901.
Michelle

[jeeb]

1861 census Kings Norton RG9/2121 Folio 122 Page 26
123 Malvern Street
John Gossage Head 48 Carpenter, Born Yardley
Emily Gossage Wife 20 Kings Norton
John Gossage Son 22 Carpenter Birmingham
Louisa Gossage Dau 5 Kings Norton
Betsey Gossage Dau 4 Kings Norton
Elizabetg Gossage 18 Servant Birmingham

Hannah Gossage Reg. dead Sept. 1851 Aston


Hope this is helpful. No Eli Gossage on 1861 census!
Cheers, Jeremy

[jeeb]

St John's Westminster 1891 census RG12/79 Folio 37 Page 1
73 Vauxhall Bridge
Eli R. Gossage Head 57 Brass Finisher Born Worcs. King's Heath
Sarah Gossage Wife 59 Midwife (sick) Hindon?
Emma Johns Gossage Dau 22 (job unreadable) Middlsx Limehouse
Cheers, Jeremy

[michellemcintosh3]

Thank you for looking this up for me I will now have to find John and Emily's marriage date, she appears to have married at about 14 or 15 to a much older man. John's children with Hannah were Eli Ruben b 1834, Betsey B 1836, John b 1837 and Mary Ann b 1840.
Eli married Hannah (Anna) Hall 29 may 1853 St Lucks Birmingham so I guess some of their childern were born there and I know that Miriam b 1871, Eli Ruben b 1873 and Joseph b 1875 were born at Kings Norton. Anna is there on the 1881 census and after this she came to Australia and Eli moved in with Sarah Johns as Hannah was alive I don't think he could have ever married her.
Kind regards
Michelle

[michellemcintosh3]

Hi Jeremy
I have had a look for a marriage of John and Emily on the IGI and I can't find one, I also looked for the birth of Louisa and Betsey and I can't find them either. Would it be possible to look at the 1871 census for them.
John's wife Hannah Crathorne I beleive was born at Kins Norton c1813 to John and Elizabeth Parkes, are you able to confirm this?
Thanking you once again.
Michelle
NSW Australia

[jeeb]

Hi Michelle,
John, Emily & Betsey Gossage do not seem to be on the 1871 census. I have found son John (born 1838) & Louisa (born 1856)

1871 census
Kings Norton RG10/3078 Folio 88 Page 29
John Gossage Head 33 Carpenter Born Birmingham
Ann E Gossage Wife 32 Shop Keeper Born Kings Heath
Ellen E Harris Dau 16 Born Kings Heath
John Gossage Son 8 Born Kings Heath
Henry Gossage Son 7 Born Kings heath
Arthur Gossage Son 6 Born Kings Heath
Ann E. Gossage 4 Born Kings Heath

(Strange about the daughter Ellen!)

1871 census
Kings Norton RG10/3080 Folio 103 Page 29
(In the house of William Ramsden)
Louisa Gossage Svt. 15 Born Kings Heath.

Marriage John Crathorne & Elizabeth Parkes. 28 March 1797 St. Phillips Bimingham.
Baptisms To John & Elizabeth Crathorne, Kings Norton.
William 13 Aug 1797
Ann 21 July1799
John 26 June 1802 (Died same day)
Thomas 28 June 1802
Eliz. 5 June 1803
Mary 17 Feb 1805
Harriot 9 Nov 1806
Joseph 21 Aug 1808
Sarah 21 Aug 1808
John 11 Mar 1810
Edward (No date) 1812
Susannah 4 June 1815
Maria 5 Oct 1817
Stephen 31 Dec 1819
Lenard 29 Oct 1821
Eliza 27 Oct 1822

Wow! It tired me out just typing them all down.

Jeremy.

[michellemcintosh3]

Hi Jeremy
Wow what can I say 16 children better her than me! I think my Hannah must be Susannah b 1815 as their is no Hannah.
Thank you for looking this up for me. I did look at free BDM's for the marriage of John and Emily plus the children and they are not there at all. I will now have a look to see if their deaths are registered.
I guess Ellen Harris must be from an earlier marriage of John wife Ann I will also have a look at that. Is Kings Heath close to Kings Norton as I noticed that on the 1891 census Eli R said he was born at Kings Heath instead of Kings Norton and the same happen for Louisa b 1856 1861 KN and 1871 KH.
By the way I did find Eli R on the 1881 census he is there as Ruben living with
Sarah Johns and her 2 daughters.
Are you able to look for Eli Ruben and Hannah (Anna)? They should be on the 1871 census as I know that they had Miriam Bap in 1871 at Kings Norton.
You do a great job. Thank you sooooo much.
Michelle

[jeeb]

Hi Michelle,
Sorry but I didn't do that great a job, I missed the all important one!

Hannah dau of John & Elizabeth Crathorne 22 March 1813 at Kings Norton.

Kings Heath is very close to Kings Norton and I think but not 100% sure is in the parish of Kings Norton. It lies slightly South West of Yardley, stated by John Gossage (1813) as his birth place.

1871 census Kings Norton
RG10/3080 Folio 127 Page 32

Eli Gossage Head 37 Brass Founder Born Yardley
Hannah Gossage Wife 37 Born Birmingham
Betsy Gossage Dau 11 Born Kings Norton
Annie Gossage Dau 9 Born Birmingham
Emma Gossage Dau 7 Born Birmingham
Frederick gossage Son 3 Born Birmingham
Mary Gossage Dau 1week Born Kings Norton

Jeremy.

[michellemcintosh3]

Hi Jeremy
Thanks for all this info. I have been working on my Slade line and Robert had 19 children but he was married twice. Could you tell me when the 1871 census was taken? as then I will have the date of Mary's birth.
Michelle

[Procat]

Excuse my butting in folks,

1871 census was taken 2 April 1871.

You may find this useful:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Census.html